2014 Forum matchplay "King of Kings" competition...

[FairwayDodger]

1. Justone (Gatwick)
2. Liverbirdie (Liverpool)
3. Lincoln Quaker (Lincoln?)
4. Khamelion (Newcastle)
5. Robobum (Swindon)
6. Pbrown7582 (Yorkshire)
7. Qwerty (Chorley,Lancs)
8. Bluewolf (Wigan,Lancs)
9. Virtuocity (Lanarkshire)
10. Jimbob.Someroo
11. Coolhand (SW London/Surrey/Middlesex)
12. Fish (Midlands)
13. PieMan (Herts)
14. Rooter (West Berkshire)
15. Midnight (Hampshire)
16. Louise_a (Manchester)
17. Whereditgo
18. 3offThe Tee
19. golfdub (kent)
20. Hallsy (somerset/Bristol)
21. 3PuttCharlie(Swindon
22. Mikee247 (Wilts,West Berks)
23. Rich1981 (Cardiff - South Wales/South West)
24. Macca64 (Swindon)
25. Fundy (Beds)
26. Marshy (Yorks/NW)
27. Garyinderry (Liverpool)
28. Lump (West Yorkshire)
29. Sev112 (Reading /Berks)
30. Grumps (Fife Scotland)
31. Mattyboy (Croydon)
32. Region3 (Leicester)
33. Dave1980(se London/kent)
34. Odvan (Bury)
35. Dellboy (Dorset/Wiltshire)
36. Bigfoot (West Midlands/ Worcestershire)
37. Birchy (Lancashire)
38. Tyke (Lincoln)
39. Harrymonk(bournemouth)
40. NWJocko (Lancashire)
41. Slicer30 (Buckinghamshire)
42. Sawtooth (Berks)
43. Wookie (Hants / Surrey border)
44. Captainron (Lincolnshire)
45. Smiffy (Sussex/Surrey/Kent)
46. Davidg2010uk (Renfrewshire, Scotland)
47. tsped83 (West Yorkshire)
48. Beezerk (Tyne and Wear)
49. CMAC (East Ren, Scotland)
50. Arnoldarmchewer (hertfordshire)
51. Farneyman (Ayrshire)
52. Kellfire (no set location atm, potentially moving soon)
53. Swingalot (Kent)
54. HomerJsimpson (Berkshire)
55. golfandmoregolf (mids)
56. Rosecott (Notts)
57. Snaphookwedge (Sussex)
58. Bobirdie (West Scotland)
59. Cheifi0 (Leeds, West Yorkshire)
60. Adiemel (Cambs)
61. ColchesterFC (North Suffolk)
62. Beck9965 (Essex)
63. Scazza (Somerset
64. Linnets (Norfolk & Cambs)
65. Williamalex1 (Lanarkshire)
66. El Bandito (Hampshire/Wiltshire)
67. Kraxx68 (Newcastle/Geordieland)
68. Beggsy (leeds )
69. Mashleyr7 (Kent)
70. Rickg (Herts)
71. Dufferman (Woking, Surrey)
72. MGL (Durham)
73. Bozza (Co. Durham)
74. FairwayDodger (Edinburgh)

 

[Fish]

equidistant

Bit early for this ain't it

 

[Evesdad]

1. Justone (Gatwick)
2. Liverbirdie (Liverpool)
3. Lincoln Quaker (Lincoln?)
4. Khamelion (Newcastle)
5. Robobum (Swindon)
6. Pbrown7582 (Yorkshire)
7. Qwerty (Chorley,Lancs)
8. Bluewolf (Wigan,Lancs)
9. Virtuocity (Lanarkshire)
10. Jimbob.Someroo
11. Coolhand (SW London/Surrey/Middlesex)
12. Fish (Midlands)
13. PieMan (Herts)
14. Rooter (West Berkshire)
15. Midnight (Hampshire)
16. Louise_a (Manchester)
17. Whereditgo
18. 3offThe Tee
19. golfdub (kent)
20. Hallsy (somerset/Bristol)
21. 3PuttCharlie(Swindon
22. Mikee247 (Wilts,West Berks)
23. Rich1981 (Cardiff - South Wales/South West)
24. Macca64 (Swindon)
25. Fundy (Beds)
26. Marshy (Yorks/NW)
27. Garyinderry (Liverpool)
28. Lump (West Yorkshire)
29. Sev112 (Reading /Berks)
30. Grumps (Fife Scotland)
31. Mattyboy (Croydon)
32. Region3 (Leicester)
33. Dave1980(se London/kent)
34. Odvan (Bury)
35. Dellboy (Dorset/Wiltshire)
36. Bigfoot (West Midlands/ Worcestershire)
37. Birchy (Lancashire)
38. Tyke (Lincoln)
39. Harrymonk(bournemouth)
40. NWJocko (Lancashire)
41. Slicer30 (Buckinghamshire)
42. Sawtooth (Berks)
43. Wookie (Hants / Surrey border)
44. Captainron (Lincolnshire)
45. Smiffy (Sussex/Surrey/Kent)
46. Davidg2010uk (Renfrewshire, Scotland)
47. tsped83 (West Yorkshire)
48. Beezerk (Tyne and Wear)
49. CMAC (East Ren, Scotland)
50. Arnoldarmchewer (hertfordshire)
51. Farneyman (Ayrshire)
52. Kellfire (no set location atm, potentially moving soon)
53. Swingalot (Kent)
54. HomerJsimpson (Berkshire)
55. golfandmoregolf (mids)
56. Rosecott (Notts)
57. Snaphookwedge (Sussex)
58. Bobirdie (West Scotland)
59. Cheifi0 (Leeds, West Yorkshire)
60. Adiemel (Cambs)
61. ColchesterFC (North Suffolk)
62. Beck9965 (Essex)
63. Scazza (Somerset
64. Linnets (Norfolk & Cambs)
65. Williamalex1 (Lanarkshire)
66. El Bandito (Hampshire/Wiltshire)
67. Kraxx68 (Newcastle/Geordieland)
68. Beggsy (leeds )
69. Mashleyr7 (Kent)
70. Rickg (Herts)
71. Dufferman (Woking, Surrey)
72. MGL (Durham)
73. Bozza (Co. Durham)
74. FairwayDodger (Edinburgh)
75. Evesdad (Leicester)

 

[JustOne]

Was thinking about this last night and not sure if this has been mentioned, cba reading back through the thread as the numbers are frying my skull.

Are we having ties played at a neutral venue agreed by both parties? This could help cover more of the country as the game could be played equidistant from the two players once it gets down to the later rounds as distances between players will be bigger?
This also eliminates the disadvantage that people with no home club would have as well??

That was the plan..... but I'm still trying to figure out how this is going to work EXACTLY. There's still plenty of time and it's only once people are ASKED for their payment that a final plan needs to be in place..... this thread was really about seeing just how much interest there actually is in a matchplay comp to find a 'forum champion'... not saying that there is going to actually be a comp at all.

Odd numbers and you don't have a comp that 'works' per se, get thru two rounds and you're in the last 16... from there it seems like people think all 16 are entitled to play at a UK top course just because they beat Smiffy and Leftie. I understand that people enjoy a 'get together' but really a matchplay comp is about the people who get (at least) to the Top 4..... and in doing so the Top 4 will have potentially have already spent £100+ on petrol !!!! maybe more.

So I can't even decide if it's viable... but I guess it is to those who CHOOSE to be in it :thup:

 

[Birchy]

That was the plan..... but I'm still trying to figure out how this is going to work EXACTLY. There's still plenty of time and it's only once people are ASKED for their payment that a final plan needs to be in place..... this thread was really about seeing just how much interest there actually is in a matchplay comp to find a 'forum champion'... not saying that there is going to actually be a comp at all.

Odd numbers and you don't have a comp that 'works' per se, get thru two rounds and you're in the last 16... from there it seems like people think all 16 are entitled to play at a UK top course just because they beat Smiffy and Leftie. I understand that people enjoy a 'get together' but really a matchplay comp is about the people who get (at least) to the Top 4..... and in doing so the Top 4 will have potentially have already spent £100+ on petrol !!!! maybe more.

So I can't even decide if it's viable... but I guess it is to those who CHOOSE to be in it :thup:

I think the way its kicked off is looking promising. Like you say though it will sort itself out a bit once money has been asked for.

If this is going to play out as a singles matchplay forum championship then I agree I needs to be 4 players in the final day comp although there could still be a meet for x amount of players who wish to play on the day?

Final venue could be decided as middle ish point somewhere for the 4 finalists? Should keep massive costs down?

On finals day maybe two semi finals in the morning with rest playing a comp then everybody can follow the final around in the afternoon if they want? Make it a proper event feel?

 

[virtuocity]

I think the way its kicked off is looking promising. Like you say though it will sort itself out a bit once money has been asked for.

If this is going to play out as a singles matchplay forum championship then I agree I needs to be 4 players in the final day comp although there could still be a meet for x amount of players who wish to play on the day?

Final venue could be decided as middle ish point somewhere for the 4 finalists? Should keep massive costs down?

I agree that if we're going down the matchplay route then it's vital that everyone tries to get to the final day to compete in a forum meet / trophy comp.

If not then there's no point in arranging anything as the original idea (correct me if I'm wrong) was to create opportunities to play in big forum events and enjoy the social side of the forum out on the course.

It would be a bit rubbish to meet up with one person locally, beat him, repeat for a couple of rounds then get to a final day in the middle of nowhere playing with a handful of forumers to play for a trophy that the majority of the forum had stopped caring about months ago.

Still don't know why people aren't up for playing a regional stableford match where the top 2 or 3 or 4 go through to the national final somewhere central and the losers from the regional tie an still attend the finals to play for the 'losers cup'.

So much easier to arrange, brings a loads of forumers together for a laugh and a knock, gets everyone involved I.e. no one is prevented from playing by getting beat in the regional round.

I would be happy to arrange ALL of the above! But if everyone is intent on playing a matchplay comp then whilst I'll be more than happy to participate, I'd be reluctant to et involved in the organisation as realistically it's a logistical nightmare.

 

[JustOne]

If we collect £640 in entry fees it's possible the final could be held somewhere LIKE Lytham... where it's £170(ish) for a round... as the entry fees would cover that for the 2 semi's and the 1 final

...it would be an awesome 'prize' for the top 4, something worth playing for.


How many forumers will want to 'tag along' at those prices? (don't forget their petrol money to get there and back)

NB.... if someone wants to organise a league, a stableford order of merit or any other comp.... meet.... or anything else then please just go for it... don't let this stop you.... I was just thinking of having something DIFFERENT where the carrot is at the END for whomever does the best to get there.... like I said... something different.

 

[virtuocity]

How many forumers will want to 'tag along' at those prices? (don't forget their petrol money to get there and back)

None.

 

[Fish]

But if everyone is intent on playing a matchplay comp then whilst I'll be more than happy to participate, I'd be reluctant to et involved in the organisation as realistically it's a logistical nightmare.

I disagree, that's why the large majority of all National comps like Nike, HDID, Volvo and many more are all Matchplay. Names are put into regions and drawn, you may be lucky and get drawn at home, as such you pay half the guest rate green fee for your opponent so the outlay is equal, what you hopefully end up with then is a North, East, West & South regions and you then whittle that down, the further you go into the competition the more you need to be prepared to travel to a venue as someone may make the last 4 and they be at total different ends of the country to the other competitors. I think the £10 entry fee should be used for the semi-final and final venues so their special, everything else is spilt on the day like all National comps.

 

[ColchesterFC]

If we collect £640 in entry fees it's possible the final could be held somewhere LIKE Lytham... where it's £170(ish) for a round... as the entry fees would cover that for the 2 semi's and the 1 final

Wouldn't it be 4 x green fees for the semis and 2 x green fees for the final or 6 x £170, £1020 in total or am I missing something?

 

[JustOne]

Wouldn't it be 4 x green fees for the semis and 2 x green fees for the final or 6 x £170, £1020 in total or am I missing something?

Yeh, sorry, I keep doing that... but I'd phone them up and tell them we only have £640

It might be £20 to enter...

right now it's just a 'feeler' thread :thup:

 

[JustOne]

...the further you go into the competition the more you need to be prepared to travel to a venue as someone may make the last 4 and they be at total different ends of the country to the other competitors. I think the £10 entry fee should be used for the semi-final and final venues so they're special

Exactly my thoughts.

 

[Birchy]

If we collect £640 in entry fees it's possible the final could be held somewhere LIKE Lytham... where it's £170(ish) for a round... as the entry fees would cover that for the 2 semi's and the 1 final

...it would be an awesome 'prize' for the top 4, something worth playing for.


How many forumers will want to 'tag along' at those prices? (don't forget their petrol money to get there and back)

NB.... if someone wants to organise a league, a stableford order of merit or any other comp.... meet.... or anything else then please just go for it... don't let this stop you.... I was just thinking of having something DIFFERENT where the carrot is at the END for whomever does the best to get there.... like I said... something different.

That's where I would maybe tweak it down a touch in terms of venue to make it so we could have a big turnout.

I think the idea of 4 guys tootling around the course on the forum championship final is rather underwhelming. Having a big number could also get a better deal and be able to offer more to the winners in terms of prizes etc. You would still get a big forum champ etc and a great day for many to share.

 

[JustOne]

None.

Precisely.

....or we could have a cheap venue for the final... and then what's the point of entering to play a 'normal course'?

I don't want to drive to Leicester and back (£70 in petrol) to play Region3 in a matchplay.... only to then go to a final at 'Bogtown on Trent' municipal which is £12 green fee

 

[pokerjoke]

Precisely.

....or we could have a cheap venue for the final... and then what's the point of entering to play a 'normal course'?

I don't want to drive to Leicester and back (£70 in petrol) to play Region3 in a matchplay.... only to then go to a final at 'Bogtown on Trent' municipal which is £12 green fee

If you played Region you woudlnt be going to the final,he would

 

[Birchy]

Precisely.

....or we could have a cheap venue for the final... and then what's the point of entering to play a 'normal course'?

I don't want to drive to Leicester and back (£70 in petrol) to play Region3 in a matchplay.... only to then go to a final at 'Bogtown on Trent' municipal which is £12 green fee

It doesn't need to be cheap per se but just a bit more realistic for others.

Theres loads of courses in the bracket of say £50-£100 that could be used that are top courses??. Entry fees would easily cover that and a nice trophy and prizes?

 

[JustOne]

That's where I would maybe tweak it down a touch in terms of venue to make it so we could have a big turnout.

This is something that i was thinking about....

the final 8 get paid for accommodation/green fees/food at PingHQ for the weekend

Anyone else who wants to be there would have to pay seperately (but it's affordable)


The thing is IF you have the top 16 there.... it's only 8 more people ..... big deal!!! and if you have the Top 32 then all they had to do was to beat ONE PERSON to qualify!!

And then you have the logistics of trying to get it at a time when everyone is available :angry:

 

[pokerjoke]

I agree that if we're going down the matchplay route then it's vital that everyone tries to get to the final day to compete in a forum meet / trophy comp.

If not then there's no point in arranging anything as the original idea (correct me if I'm wrong) was to create opportunities to play in big forum events and enjoy the social side of the forum out on the course.

It would be a bit rubbish to meet up with one person locally, beat him, repeat for a couple of rounds then get to a final day in the middle of nowhere playing with a handful of forumers to play for a trophy that the majority of the forum had stopped caring about months ago.

Still don't know why people aren't up for playing a regional stableford match where the top 2 or 3 or 4 go through to the national final somewhere central and the losers from the regional tie an still attend the finals to play for the 'losers cup'.

So much easier to arrange, brings a loads of forumers together for a laugh and a knock, gets everyone involved I.e. no one is prevented from playing by getting beat in the regional round.

I would be happy to arrange ALL of the above! But if everyone is intent on playing a matchplay comp then whilst I'll be more than happy to participate, I'd be reluctant to et involved in the organisation as realistically it's a logistical nightmare.

This for me.
Got to agree the final has to be a good course.

 

[Fish]

Precisely.

....or we could have a cheap venue for the final... and then what's the point of entering to play a 'normal course'?

I don't want to drive to Leicester and back (£70 in petrol) to play Region3 in a matchplay.... only to then go to a final at 'Bogtown on Trent' municipal which is £12 green fee

Maybe a poll to see if people would like a Links, Heathland or Parkland course for the semi and final venues and then, look at the options in particular price brackets to get the best value.

 

[virtuocity]

Well at least it comes down to only two differing points of view instead of 1000!!!

Simple to come up with a forum decision if someone clever could setup a poll?