WW3 -All Russia / Ukraine stuff here please-

Swango1980 said:
If you are worried about your own mental health when potential outcomes of war against a nuclear nation with an unpredictable leader are discussed, you could simply avoid this thread? The Wordle thread is likely to induce less stress :)
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I am not worried about my own mental health in the slightest, what made you think I was. On many things some of us think of others more than just ourselves.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
How the h*** can we discuss the refugee crisis and how the UK is responding to it - that being the one area we can individually and collectively really help the Ukrainians, without reference to the government's decisions. They are the one and the same thing. It's a nonsense to pretend otherwise.
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Because the situation is bad enough without the thread disintegrating into a political meltdown. You know exactly what you're doing with your wording and sly innuendo about the government and their handling of things to date.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
How the h*** can we discuss the refugee crisis and how the UK is responding to it - that being the one area we can individually and collectively really help the Ukrainians, without reference to the government's decisions. They are the one and the same thing. It's a nonsense to pretend otherwise.
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Personally think our response to refugees has been poor but nor can I see a practical way of sorting out the mess when we run a policy that requires a background check on those entering the country.
Having been castigated by the British public in the past for allowing know nasties in they are buggered which ever way they go.

Perhaps @SwingsitlikeHogan has the ideal solution.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
How the h*** can we discuss the refugee crisis and how the UK is responding to it - that being the one area we can individually and collectively really help the Ukrainians, without reference to the government's decisions. They are the one and the same thing. It's a nonsense to pretend otherwise.
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It’s difficult, if not impossible, we get this, but we have to operate and post with the rules GM lay down.
No politics please
 
What I cannot for the life of me understand is, why do the BBC fly reporter in to war zones? And, if the BBC have reporters there, where are other TV channels reporters?
 
Crazyface said:
What I cannot for the life of me understand is, why do the BBC fly reporter in to war zones? And, if the BBC have reporters there, where are other TV channels reporters?
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THey've been doing it for decades! Remember all the reports from Middle East conflicts for example!
One of the recognised 'independent and unbiased' news agencies for such events.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I am not worried about my own mental health in the slightest, what made you think I was. On many things some of us think of others more than just ourselves.
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Who are all these people who are complaining about mental health that you are defending? It doesn't matter if it is your mental health, or others. If topics in this thread are stressing you out, don't open the thread. It is entitled with "WW3" in the title, that should be a hint that the chat will not be about cute puppies. I'm not having a go, I'm simply saying that if there is a thread about war, it isn't a light subject sadly.
 
Swango1980 said:
Who are all these people who are complaining about mental health that you are defending? It doesn't matter if it is your mental health, or others. If topics in this thread are stressing you out, don't open the thread. It is entitled with "WW3" in the title, that should be a hint that the chat will not be about cute puppies. I'm not having a go, I'm simply saying that if there is a thread about war, it isn't a light subject sadly.
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There’s a reason that military personnel survive on black humour.
 
Crazyface said:
What I cannot for the life of me understand is, why do the BBC fly reporter in to war zones? And, if the BBC have reporters there, where are other TV channels reporters?
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Sky reporters are in Ukraine, and I know GMB had reporters in Ukraine also.

I did laugh, as reporters have had to follow strict Covid guidelines for last 2 years, then as soon as we start to get out of that, off they go to a war zone. Health and Safety gone mad.

However, the reason they go is so they can experience what things are really like on the ground, rather than rely purely on 3rd parties. It helps verify a lot of what they report, hopefully giving us generally more reliable news.
 
Swango1980 said:
Sky reporters are in Ukraine, and I know GMB had reporters in Ukraine also.

I did laugh, as reporters have had to follow strict Covid guidelines for last 2 years, then as soon as we start to get out of that, off they go to a war zone. Health and Safety gone mad.

However, the reason they go is so they can experience what things are really like on the ground, rather than rely purely on 3rd parties. It helps verify a lot of what they report, hopefully giving us generally more reliable news.
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Most reporters are acting on behalf of several media outlets, but I do laugh when I see so many driving around a war zone.
 
PhilTheFragger said:
It’s difficult, if not impossible, we get this, but we have to operate and post with the rules GM lay down.
No politics please
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This is not politics it is government policy on our behalf in a very challenging context. But if it is what is required and that I cannot say that I am happy with the way the government has responded militarily and on aid so far then I won't. And I won't say how well I think the public's wishes are being reflected by government policy on refugees.

The politics of the matter are mostly it seems around why the government is doing what it is doing, and less so around what it is doing. And so I will not discuss the why of it, though I suggest that we all know why, but I can surely discuss the what as that is what impacts each and every one of us in our ability to help and support Ukrainian refugees.

It is a rather sad joke that we have to dance on the head of a pin almost pretending that what is happening in respect of the UK response to the refugee crisis is somehow happening of it's own accord, and not as the result of decisions being made on behalf of each and every one of us. But I guess that that suits some.

Anyway - so we go back to discussing hypothetical military and conflict matters upon which we have no influence, and that will only impact us through government policy...though somehow we can discuss that. Carry on.
 
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Swango1980 said:
Who are all these people who are complaining about mental health that you are defending? It doesn't matter if it is your mental health, or others. If topics in this thread are stressing you out, don't open the thread. It is entitled with "WW3" in the title, that should be a hint that the chat will not be about cute puppies. I'm not having a go, I'm simply saying that if there is a thread about war, it isn't a light subject sadly.
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I misread your post and Googled "Nice puppies" instead of cute puppies. There were images there that would have seen me receive a severe Fraggering but I think this one is ok to post.....

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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
This is not politics it is government policy on our behalf
So that’s politics then.
in a very challenging context. But if it is what is required and that I cannot say that I am happy with the way the government has responded militarily and on aid so far then I won't.
But you just did
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Look I’m going to say this once
This is a golf forum, nothing that is said on here is going to change anything anywhere.
Your constant little digs, like those above are becoming tiresome and if repeated will result in consequences.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
This is not politics it is government policy on our behalf in a very challenging context. But if it is what is required and that I cannot say that I am happy with the way the government has responded militarily and on aid so far then I won't. And I won't say how well I think the public's wishes are being reflected by government policy on refugees.

The politics of the matter are mostly it seems around why the government is doing what it is doing, and less so around what it is doing. And so I will not discuss the why of it, though I suggest that we all know why, but I can surely discuss the what as that is what impacts each and every one of us in our ability to help and support Ukrainian refugees.

It is a rather sad joke that we have to dance on the head of a pin almost pretending that what is happening in respect of the UK response to the refugee crisis is somehow happening of it's own accord, and not as the result of decisions being made on behalf of each and every one of us. But I guess that that suits some.

Anyway - so we go back to discussing hypothetical military and conflict matters upon which we have no influence, and that will only impact us through government policy...though somehow we can discuss that. Carry on.
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I laughed when I started to read this. It is like me saying "This is not football, it is about me talking about a group of 11 men facing another group of 11 men kicking a little white ball and trying to put it into a rectangular frame with a net on one side of a big grassy area, while stopping the other group of men putting it into a similar frame on the opposite end."
 
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