WW3 -All Russia / Ukraine stuff here please-

Tashyboy said:
Had a lie in this morning, so Missis T said that the “ SWIFT “ money system. (I honestly don’t know what it is), but she said “a couple of countries are loathe to stop the Russians from using it at the moment”. But Ave not see out on the box, would all countries need to agree to this for it to happen.
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SWIFT sanctions being blocked by the EU
 
pauljames87 said:
We can't overly punish China. Everything is from there or made there.

We can't massively punish Russian money. A lot of it is involved in our government rightly or wrongly

It's all a mess.
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The joys of capitalism and everything boiling down to what's best for the bottom line.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Without wishing to dilute the atrocities playing out at the moment, but I think it's tenuously linked to sanctions but there was mention on Sky Sports this morning that sport needs to do more and every Russian team and national association across all sports need to be banned until Putin leaves Ukraine. Great to see Vettel coming out and saying that even if the F1 goes ahead in Russia later in the year he'll not be driving
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The final 16 draw for the Europa is at 11. Chance west ham could get spartak moscow..

Would Europa let it be played there? Or let Moscow travel?
 
greenone said:
The joys of capitalism and everything boiling down to what's best for the bottom line.
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I read earlier that Europa has bought more gas from Russia today ..

So much for cutting them off

We need them more than they need us unfortunately
 
pauljames87 said:
We can't overly punish China. Everything is from there or made there.

We can't massively punish Russian money. A lot of it is involved in our government rightly or wrongly

It's all a mess.
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One problem I see is that many European Countries rely greatly on Russian Oil and Gas, if there are no financial transactions available to Russia why would they continue to supply it without payment.
 
SocketRocket said:
One problem I see is that many European Countries rely greatly on Russian Oil and Gas, if there are no financial transactions available to Russia why would they continue to supply it without payment.
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Putin can turn off the gas whenever he wants , China will buy from him

People think the cost of living is up now
 
IanM said:
"Its all our fault" mantra deployed! :rolleyes:

Never mind. Champions League final moved to Paris. That'll stop those Russians!
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Well in view of the fact that UEFA are a bit light on fighter planes and tank divisions there isn’t a lot more they can do.

It’s a darn sight better than doing nothing.
 
Blue in Munich said:
Well in view of the fact that UEFA are a bit light on fighter planes and tank divisions there isn’t a lot more they can do.

It’s a darn sight better than doing nothing.
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Considering UK planes banned from Russia airspace would be hard to get there aswell lol
 
Blue in Munich said:
Well in view of the fact that UEFA are a bit light on fighter planes and tank divisions there isn’t a lot more they can do.

It’s a darn sight better than doing nothing.
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I think there is a lot that sport governing bodies across the globe can do, personally.

Russia (and China too, it might be a trait of communism) take great pride in their sporting "achievements" (I use that phrase lightly considering the history of doping, proven or otherwise) and their teams etc. As do the people.

UEFA moving to ban Russian teams from sanctioned competitions, FIFA moving to ban Russian players from playing in any sanctioned competition (remember UEFA were going to do this to players that played in the mooted ESL, so apparently it can be done) and then it starts to bite in to the Russian populace (I realise they are largely innocent in this, but this is not the time for niceties IMO).

IOC could move to remove recognition of the ROC completely and prevent competing in sanctioned events, just like football.

Along with financial sanctions that will bite in to the Russian population more than it will the leaders, there is a large space opened up in the narrative for "drive revolt from within".

Of course, this is just the ramblings of a bloke on a golf forum.
 
GreiginFife said:
I think there is a lot that sport governing bodies across the globe can do, personally.

Russia (and China too, it might be a trait of communism) take great pride in their sporting "achievements" (I use that phrase lightly considering the history of doping, proven or otherwise) and their teams etc. As do the people.

UEFA moving to ban Russian teams from sanctioned competitions, FIFA moving to ban Russian players from playing in any sanctioned competition (remember UEFA were going to do this to players that played in the mooted ESL, so apparently it can be done) and then it starts to bite in to the Russian populace (I realise they are largely innocent in this, but this is not the time for niceties IMO).

IOC could move to remove recognition of the ROC completely and prevent competing in sanctioned events, just like football.

Along with financial sanctions that will bite in to the Russian population more than it will the leaders, there is a large space opened up in the narrative for "drive revolt from within".

Of course, this is just the ramblings of a bloke on a golf forum.
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I wouldn’t necessarily disagree that they could do more, I was responding to the inference I drew than they’d done nothing. They’ve made a start and I’d hope they do more.
 
Tashyboy said:
...so Missis T said that the “ SWIFT “ money system. (I honestly don’t know what it is), ....
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Literally, Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication. It's the dominant way that banks make and/or receive payments to/from banks in other countries. Set up in the 1970s as a co-operative, so international transactions could not be 'controlled' by any specific commercial organisation.
It's the protocal and infrastructure equivalent to the one that allows you to make a funds transfer between your UK account and an account in a different UK bank.
It's the way I've sent or received funds to/from New Zealand, simply providing the destination Swift Bank Id along with the destination Account details.
 
GreiginFife said:
I think there is a lot that sport governing bodies across the globe can do, personally.

Russia (and China too, it might be a trait of communism) take great pride in their sporting "achievements" (I use that phrase lightly considering the history of doping, proven or otherwise) and their teams etc. As do the people.

UEFA moving to ban Russian teams from sanctioned competitions, FIFA moving to ban Russian players from playing in any sanctioned competition (remember UEFA were going to do this to players that played in the mooted ESL, so apparently it can be done) and then it starts to bite in to the Russian populace (I realise they are largely innocent in this, but this is not the time for niceties IMO).

IOC could move to remove recognition of the ROC completely and prevent competing in sanctioned events, just like football.

Along with financial sanctions that will bite in to the Russian population more than it will the leaders, there is a large space opened up in the narrative for "drive revolt from within".

Of course, this is just the ramblings of a bloke on a golf forum.
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Does Putin actually give a toss about his fellow Russians, after all he’s made himself untouchable so it’s not like they can vote him out
 
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