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The DRU? (Or havoc as it’s also known) I’m a veteran of that bloody thing (and the One at whale island)

Great way to spend a morning. whacking your thumbs with lump hammers in Ice cold water ?

Regarding the counter measures. I’m an ex Golly so ASMD (anti ship missile defence for the layman) is my specialist subject.

Fully agree. A capital ship’s softkill / hard kill should have sorted a duel raid out no issues whatsoever.

The amount of CWIS and PDMS on a Slava is frightening. The fact that they got bounced by two subsonic ASM’s is comical tbh.

You also have to wonder what damage control state / action readiness the ship was in for that limited damage to have spread so quickly.

I know that living for long periods of time in 1 Zulu (royal navy equivalent… again for layman) is a pain in the arse but possibly indicated that they simply did not fear an attack.

Either way. It’s a comical loss imo.

No wonder the pinkie MSM are not covering it.
Sorry…not covering what?
 

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The DRU? (Or havoc as it’s also known) I’m a veteran of that bloody thing (and the One at whale island)

Great way to spend a morning. whacking your thumbs with lump hammers in Ice cold water ?

Regarding the counter measures. I’m an ex Golly so ASMD (anti ship missile defence for the layman) is my specialist subject.

Fully agree. A capital ship’s softkill / hard kill should have sorted a duel raid out no issues whatsoever.

The amount of CWIS and PDMS on a Slava is frightening. The fact that they got bounced by two subsonic ASM’s is comical tbh.

You also have to wonder what damage control state / action readiness the ship was in for that limited damage to have spread so quickly.

I know that living for long periods of time in 1 Zulu (royal navy equivalent… again for layman) is a pain in the arse but possibly indicated that they simply did not fear an attack.

Either way. It’s a comical loss imo.

No wonder the pinkie MSM are not covering it.
An old mucker of mine was a Chief Golly, always going on about Cms and CCms infinitem ?.

The DRU, those softwood wedges were never going to stop the water in the pressure pipes before your hands were unusable, the thunderflashes didn't help either. ?

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Wimbledon bans Russian and Belarusian players.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/61161016
I'm not in favour of this - the current 'non-flagged' status being my preference - but I can understand why they have done it.

The argument I heard earlier was that if some Ukrainian sports stars were taking up arms to fight then why should Russian/Belarusian players benefit in their absence. Personally I agree and whilst I know the players from those countries are being unfairly treated they only have their country to blame.
 

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The argument I heard earlier was that if some Ukrainian sports stars were taking up arms to fight then why should Russian/Belarusian players benefit in their absence. Personally I agree and whilst I know the players from those countries are being unfairly treated they only have their country to blame.
That's also a reasonable argument - though I don't know of currently playing (Male) Ukrainian Tennis players in the top 200. Do you?
Plenty in the Ladies though.
Hopefully, it'll all be settled before Wimbledon anyway!
 
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Any idea how the Ukraine visa is working? I have no clue about it, but saw this post from one of our friendly neighbors in our local Facebook group

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Two Britons and a Moroccan man captured by Russian forces in Ukraine have been sentenced to death, the Russian-owned news agency RIA Novosti is reporting.

Aiden Aslin, 28, from Nottinghamshire, Shaun Pinner, 48, from Bedfordshire, and a third man, Moroccan national Saaudun Brahim, appeared in a court in the Donetsk People's Republic, which is held by pro-Russian rebels.

The court is not internationally recognised.

They are reportedly charged with being mercenaries. But the British men's families say they were in Ukraine's military.

Both British men are serving members of Ukraine’s armed forces and the UK has made clear they are prisoners of war entitled to immunity and should not face prosecution for taking part in hostilities.

On Telegram RIA News said: "The Supreme Court of the DPR passed the first sentence on mercenaries- the British Aiden Aslin and Sean Pinner and the Moroccan Saadun Brahim were sentenced to death, RIA Novosti correspondent reports from the courtroom."

Not sure what this would mean for any escalation should British nationals be executed as a result of a trail in a kangaroo court.
 

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Two Britons and a Moroccan man captured by Russian forces in Ukraine have been sentenced to death, the Russian-owned news agency RIA Novosti is reporting.

Aiden Aslin, 28, from Nottinghamshire, Shaun Pinner, 48, from Bedfordshire, and a third man, Moroccan national Saaudun Brahim, appeared in a court in the Donetsk People's Republic, which is held by pro-Russian rebels.

The court is not internationally recognised.

They are reportedly charged with being mercenaries. But the British men's families say they were in Ukraine's military.

Both British men are serving members of Ukraine’s armed forces and the UK has made clear they are prisoners of war entitled to immunity and should not face prosecution for taking part in hostilities.

On Telegram RIA News said: "The Supreme Court of the DPR passed the first sentence on mercenaries- the British Aiden Aslin and Sean Pinner and the Moroccan Saadun Brahim were sentenced to death, RIA Novosti correspondent reports from the courtroom."

Not sure what this would mean for any escalation should British nationals be executed as a result of a trail in a kangaroo court.
Well with the Germans having software problems delaying the arrival of long range artillery until December and failing to release the promised Marders things are going swimmingly.

The USA will be seriously looking at Europe when it comes to further NATO agreements me thinks with the lack of real commitment by certain European countries.
 

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Feeling a bit down today, son shipped out with his Regiment to Poland for a 6 month stint this morning, although there is hope it will be shorter as Russia haven't advanced anything like as quickly as expected when we first sent troops out. In reality he is hundreds of miles from any real fighting but the 'what if' is always in the back of the mind
 

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Feeling a bit down today, son shipped out with his Regiment to Poland for a 6 month stint this morning, although there is hope it will be shorter as Russia haven't advanced anything like as quickly as expected when we first sent troops out. In reality he is hundreds of miles from any real fighting but the 'what if' is always in the back of the mind

He’s with his band of brothers and they will all look after each other, it’s always the worst for those left behind,
Meanwhile , he’s experiencing what he’s been training for and he will be fine. ?
 

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He’s with his band of brothers and they will all look after each other, it’s always the worst for those left behind,
Meanwhile , he’s experiencing what he’s been training for and he will be fine. ?
Exactly this, my regiment are doing 9 month rotational tours which started over 18 months ago split between Estonia and Poland.
Spoke to a few back in tidworth last weekend and they are loving the amount of new and different training and excercises they are doing.
Doing what you do best rather than sitting around a camp in UK has always been the preferred option.
 

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Exactly this, my regiment are doing 9 month rotational tours which started over 18 months ago split between Estonia and Poland.
Spoke to a few back in tidworth last weekend and they are loving the amount of new and different training and excercises they are doing.
Doing what you do best rather than sitting around a camp in UK has always been the preferred option.

Thoughts on this one please from ex servicemen. Talking to the partner of a guy who is coming out of the forces. He is fed up of 10 years training but no action. Do the guys and girls crave putting practice into action.
 

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Thoughts on this one please from ex servicemen. Talking to the partner of a guy who is coming out of the forces. He is fed up of 10 years training but no action. Do the guys and girls crave putting practice into action.

They are not bloodthirsty army barmy, rambo types with a need for violence
But they do need to feel that they are doing all the years of training and grind for a purpose

Some will be deployed and will do their respective jobs to the best of their ability, some are always going to be in the back ground, some at the sharp end
and yes sometimes their lives will be on the line, they understand this as part of the job. this is what makes them special

Proud to have served in a very limited way
 

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Thoughts on this one please from ex servicemen. Talking to the partner of a guy who is coming out of the forces. He is fed up of 10 years training but no action. Do the guys and girls crave putting practice into action.

Never had a problem with training, always served me well for when doing the job was required. If you follow what is going on in Ukraine in depth you can clearly see what the lack of any fundamental training can lead to.

Nobody in their right mind looked for “action” but the knowledge that you and those around you knew what to do when it did happen was worth its weight in gold.
 

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Never had a problem with training, always served me well for when doing the job was required. If you follow what is going on in Ukraine in depth you can clearly see what the lack of any fundamental training can lead to.

Nobody in their right mind looked for “action” but the knowledge that you and those around you knew what to do when it did happen was worth its weight in gold.

Am sure the word action is not what I meant, but what she said. I feel she meant he wanted to put his training to use. I found it odd because she only mentioned this within the last month when Ukraine is still kicking off. Off to Ypres with her in a couple of weeks so am sure we will have a few more natters.
 

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Am sure the word action is not what I meant, but what she said. I feel she meant he wanted to put his training to use. I found it odd because she only mentioned this within the last month when Ukraine is still kicking off. Off to Ypres with her in a couple of weeks so am sure we will have a few more natters.
While your there, take a walk around the towns walls to the leper war cemetery. Lovely town and would recommend anyone who has the time to have a visit.
 

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While your there, take a walk around the towns walls to the leper war cemetery. Lovely town and would recommend anyone who has the time to have a visit.

Its a five day RBL trip which three of us have planned from 17th - 21st staying in Novotel Ypres. Wreath laying ceremony on the Tuesday. There’s quite a few day trips planned to Vimy ridge, Talbot house, Essex farm cemetery, Thiepval, Tyne Cot etc etc.

Last week was spent in Normandy with three ex “Woofers”. Very Moving Week. And very memorable.
 
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