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Novotel normal has a few vets in around this time of year. Although Normandy is pretty moving the visits that you are off on will knock you for six.
WW3 -All Russia / Ukraine stuff here please-
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Tashyboy
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Few stories to tell re Normandy but don’t want to knock the WW3 thread off topic. ?
spongebob59
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Reports of a couple of missiles landing in Poland, likely to be an escalation in tensions.
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I think the Czechs are getting involved as well.
tugglesf239
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Possibly just want the orcs need right now.
Straight from ‘Maskirova’ doctrine.
A few missiles into Ukraines closets ally.
Kremlin shouts… ooohh we are being portrayed as the baddies. It weren’t us honest. It’s the Ukrainians stirring it up.
Designed to agitate the Poles which will up the international rhetoric.
Russia gets to claim that Russia is now at grave risk. This legitimises further war investment etc internally and paves The way for increased activity.
Only issue being the red army have just had their arses handed to them so there’s no option left but to use tactical nukes in territory.
That’s my fag packet calculations anyway ??
tugglesf239
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where’s that Tash?I think the Czechs are getting involved as well.
Do you have a link please? Ta
According to the bbc they’ve called the Russian administration terrorists
spongebob59
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Russia saying it was an Ukrainian attack ?
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Im not sure your fag arrse prediction of tactical nukes will pass water IMHO. The global implications would be to great.
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Czech parliament passes Russian 'terrorist' motion
Rob Cameron
Reporting from Prague
The Czech parliament has passed a motion describing the current Russian administration as "terrorist".
The motion singled out widespread attacks on Ukrainian civilian targets and key energy infrastructure.
During the vote, 129 of 156 MPs present in the 200-seat chamber approved the motion, which means several dozen opposition MPs are likely to have voted with the government.
The motion was opposed by all 14 MPs in the far-right SPD party.
The Czech centre-right government is one of Ukraine's most stalwart supporters, and was among the first to send heavy weapons - including tanks - to the Ukrainian armed forces.
Was on BBC earlier
tugglesf239
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Was more a thought that the red army has nothing left to give.
They might up the age limits on conscription and they pinch the remaining dregs from the gulags (after Wangner have had their fill).
But it would appear from a number of sources that they have nothing left on the ‘conventional’ tank so to speak.
That leaves 3 options. Diplomatic efforts, tactical nukes and strategic nukes.
Now I am not suggesting for a second that we are at imminent danger of actual nukes being chucked around.
However, the diplomatic efforts will be aided if the west believes that Putin is willing to press some buttons.
For me the timing of this is interesting. Specifically in relation to the retreat from Kherson and the G20.
I don’t thing we will necessarily see an actual physical escalation. However the ramping of posturing, rhetoric and game playing from politburo will defo up its game next few weeks.
tugglesf239
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Cheers.Czech parliament passes Russian 'terrorist' motion
Rob Cameron
Reporting from Prague
The Czech parliament has passed a motion describing the current Russian administration as "terrorist".
The motion singled out widespread attacks on Ukrainian civilian targets and key energy infrastructure.
During the vote, 129 of 156 MPs present in the 200-seat chamber approved the motion, which means several dozen opposition MPs are likely to have voted with the government.
The motion was opposed by all 14 MPs in the far-right SPD party.
The Czech centre-right government is one of Ukraine's most stalwart supporters, and was among the first to send heavy weapons - including tanks - to the Ukrainian armed forces.
Was on BBC earlier
Unsure of what actual changes to foreign policy that will unlock though.
Seems more a gesture of support for Ukraine akin to UN members turning their backs on Vasily Nebenzya when this first kicked off.
Empty gestures.
Which tbh. I’d prefer over actual action.
It’s in our best interests to let this thing fizzle out naturally as opposed to getting drawn in.
theoneandonly
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Was probably the Ukraine by accident. No WW3 today gents.
Frank Gardner has spoken, you can trust Frank. A less stressful morning than it could have been. (Without underplaying the local tragedy for the families in Poland)
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BBC yesterday was appalling, jumping to conclusions without fact checking anything. Forever trying to make news instead of report facts.
theoneandonly
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I know it's the thing to bash the BBC on here, but pretty much everyone was calling it as the Russians.
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Too many news reports have the word "could" in them. That's when it ceases to be reporting, and becomes opinion.
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Not bashing but I would imagine the piece caused a lot of anxiety among those who think Armageddon is approaching. Should have been more balanced IMO.
SaintHacker
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Biden now saying its unlikely the missile was launched from Russia. Assume thats just his way of trying to calm things.
clubchamp98
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Saying this morning that it was an anti missile defence missile.
But I assume for the anti missile defence system to deploy there must have been a Russian missile present.
Or has it malfunctioned.?
But I assume for the anti missile defence system to deploy there must have been a Russian missile present.
Or has it malfunctioned.?