Would you change your vote if Labour had a stronger leader?

[Andy808]

I voted for the candidate that I thought would do the best for my constituency.
Will now have to wait and see if he can do the job as well as he says he can.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Voted labour and think the country is much the poorer for losing a decent, caring and intelligent guy as Labour leader through the machinations and character assasinations carried out on him by the Tory press. Happen to think the same about Clegg.

 

[jontymo]

Because people on the left want to see the economy move the wrong way and pensions to shrink do they? Riiiight... :rofl:

funny is'n't it! i see it as serious, if i went the way of voting the way my dad and grandad did then i would have gone labour, sorry but i did not trust labour this time round.

 

[bluewolf]

funny is'n't it! i see it as serious, if i went the way of voting the way my dad and grandad did then i would have gone labour, sorry but i did not trust labour this time round.

I suppose time will tell whether you were correct or not eh. Just don't take your evidence from the press though. What's right for the Billionaire media barons might just not be right for the person on the street.

 

[SocketRocket]

I suppose time will tell whether you were correct or not eh. Just don't take your evidence from the press though. What's right for the Billionaire media barons might just not be right for the person on the street.

Give people a bit of credit, most dont vote based on what the Media Barons tell them, many do vote on what their Mums and Dads tell them though (Does that put Mums and Dads in the same category as Media Barons).

 

[Hobbit]

I suppose time will tell whether you were correct or not eh. Just don't take your evidence from the press though. What's right for the Billionaire media barons might just not be right for the person on the street.

Which media barons? The rich Conservative media barons or the rich Labour media barons?

Do I want to fund another civil service and benefits spending explosion, or do I want a Govt that looks to balance the books and spend within its means? Do I want a Govt that attracts businesses to the UK, or one that cripples the businesses that are already here? Do I want to see interest rate rises.... and on and on?

There's too long a history of spending beyond the country's means by Labour. Not for me, not now. I like some of their policies but their funding gap is waaaaaayyy too big.

 

[Tiger]

I think Labour with David Milliband would have been a better proposition but as has already been mentioned by Murph and others the big election issue was the economy and Labour's policy gave me absolutely no confidence.

 

[Kellfire]

Anyone who sees the party leader as anymore than the spokesperson for the party and actually believes what the PM says goes should have their vote removed from them for stupidity.

 

[Hobbit]

Anyone who sees the party leader as anymore than the spokesperson for the party and actually believes what the PM says goes should have their vote removed from them for stupidity.

You're not wrong Marc, but I think its also about credibility and honesty. For me, I just didn't believe an awful lot of what came out of Ed's mouth.

 

[Kellfire]

Which is fair enough but it would've been the same information being said by either brother or AN Other.

It's sad that so many people will be worried about who said it and not what they're saying.

 

[chrisd]

I think the Miliband and Balls team would have been the political equivalent of Laurel and Hardy!

 

[bluewolf]

many do vote on what their Mums and Dads tell them though (Does that put Mums and Dads in the same category as Media Barons).

No, just the same tax bracket.

 

[Fish]

People buy off people, always have done, always will. 4 people could knock your door and attempt to sell you exactly the same thing, you will possibly exclude 2 immediately, consider 1 but then certainly buy off the other. I'm not in the Labour camp anyway but a better likeable front person is as critical as the item he/she us selling because it has to be believable, I didn't believe anything Millabore said.

 

[ManinBlack]

If Ed Milliband had had the interests of the Labour party, rather than his own, as a priority he would have never stood against his brother, who was clearly, by far, the most impressive candidate. Ed's lust for power has set the Labour party back years. I honestly believe that if David Milliband had been leader we would now have a Labour government. And the unions' backing of Ed has backfired, lumbering them with a Tory administration for another 5 years. Serves them all right!

 

[bluewolf]

Which media barons? The rich Conservative media barons or the rich Labour media barons?

Do I want to fund another civil service and benefits spending explosion, or do I want a Govt that looks to balance the books and spend within its means? Do I want a Govt that attracts businesses to the UK, or one that cripples the businesses that are already here? Do I want to see interest rate rises.... and on and on?

There's too long a history of spending beyond the country's means by Labour. Not for me, not now. I like some of their policies but their funding gap is waaaaaayyy too big.

Genuine question, which are the rich Labour media barons? Murdoch, The Barclay Brothers, Rothermere, Desmond all came down on the right (Desmond tried to buy a Knighthood by funding UKIP). Lebedev could be viewed as centre left, but is markedly on the right as far as the economy goes.

 

[wrighty1874]

No.Wanted to give UKIP a chance but opted for the road to recovery and a say on leaving the EU.

 

[bluewolf]

You're not wrong Marc, but I think its also about credibility and honesty. For me, I just didn't believe an awful lot of what came out of Ed's mouth.

Not picking on you Brian, but does this mean that you do believe Cameron? I definitely don't think that Ed was the right person to lead the country, but I do think he was a principled man.

 

[jontymo]

Not picking on you Brian, but does this mean that you do believe Cameron? I definitely don't think that Ed was the right person to lead the country, but I do think he was a principled man.

how can you tell he was a principled man and Cameron is not? for me i could not understand many if any of the labour policies and i think labour became entrenched in having no credible plan.
What i can see and feel is the economy moving in the right direction, i see this at work, i see this in my pension pot and i see this in the general mood of a lot of people i work with and see on a daily basis.
Also don't assume someone votes on what you call the media barons advice, give people a little credit.

 

[bluewolf]

how can you tell he was a principled man and Cameron is not? for me i could not understand many if any of the labour policies and i think labour became entrenched in having no credible plan.
What i can see and feel is the economy moving in the right direction, i see this at work, i see this in my pension pot and i see this in the general mood of a lot of people i work with and see on a daily basis.
Also don't assume someone votes on what you call the media barons advice, give people a little credit.

The operative word was "think", and I didn't say the Cameron was or wasn't.
I also didn't say that you voted Tory because of the Newspapers. I said not to take the evidence of their effectiveness from the Press.

 

[Snelly]

No. I would've voted Conservative, obviously.

My mate Jo sent an email to me last night and made some good points about how this election and the run up to it, has highlighted the problem with the modern day left.

They are utterly convinced that they are right and have the moral high ground. The liberals of today love democracy and stringently defend freedom of speech, right up to the point that someone doesn't agree with their exact view.

At this point, the electorate become stupid or right wing bigots, the press become mind-altering dictators of the outcome and the Tories are positioned as campaigners of fear with the electoral system at fault.

It is always the same with the left, everyone is equal and everyone is great, unless you don't adhere to my liberal world view because that makes you a racist, fascist pig that I can abuse without fear of retribution because I am morally right and you are clueless.

Unfortunately, the country doesn't seem to agree this time does it? Basically after five years of Tory led government, more people this time around have said they support David Cameron and an incumbent PM has increased their number of seats in the commons for the next term for the first time since Queen Victoria was on the throne.

The left don't like it quite naturally and have reverted to type, on this forum too in some cases. I think it is pretty pathetic and maybe I am wrong but if the boot was on the other foot and Ed was in number 10, I don't think I would be tearing up my comics and taking to social media or dare I say a golf forum, to vent my spiteful spleen.