World Cup Russia 2018

I told you all that Martinez was an idiot!
The Guy has only played 30 internationals in 9 years, wasn’t in the 2014 squad, he retired last year and then was injured when selected by Martinez, why is Martinez the idiot, 1 decent season with Roma and suddenly Belgium need him, maybe Martinez and Henry know a bit more than us.
 
The Guy has only played 30 internationals in 9 years, wasn’t in the 2014 squad, he retired last year and then was injured when selected by Martinez, why is Martinez the idiot, 1 decent season with Roma and suddenly Belgium need him, maybe Martinez and Henry know a bit more than us.
lol don't be daft. Nainggolan is one of the best midfielders in Europe.
 
lol don't be daft. Nainggolan is one of the best midfielders in Europe.
On what basis, one good season with Roma, he played for Belgium a few times over the last few years, including before Martinez,
If he’s that good, what’s been the issue? Why didn’t he go to the 2014 WC? When there was rumours about him being disruptive then.
 
On what basis, one good season with Roma, he played for Belgium a few times over the last few years, including before Martinez,
If he’s that good, what’s been the issue? Why didn’t he go to the 2014 WC? When there was rumours about him being disruptive then.

It's 2018, not 2014. His performance then is irrelevant.
 
It's 2018, not 2014. His performance then is irrelevant.
Maybe it’s his performances that are irrelevant, he has a history of being disruptive in the squad, Martinez prefers De Bruyne or Hazard or Mertens. He’s never been a regular, 1 good season isn’t enough.
 
Maybe it’s his performances that are irrelevant, he has a history of being disruptive in the squad, Martinez prefers De Bruyne or Hazard or Mertens. He’s never been a regular, 1 good season isn’t enough.
I suspected his attitude might be the issue, but in that case Martinez shouldn't have made himself look like a clown by giving a B.S. reason in his press conference, where he said it was for tactical reasons. :rofl:
 
Nainggolan has been one of the stand-out midfielders in the Serie A for at least 4 years now (He's featured in every FIFA Serie A Team of the Season since 2015 for example). Martinez obviously has a problem with his personality and as a result has picked a bloke who plays in China and another who is an absolute donkey who has featured in just half of his club teams fixtures this season instead. Nainggolan may play in an advanced forward role similar to Mertens and sort of De Bruyne but he's more than just an attacking midfielder, he's an all around midfield powerhouse that can do everything. Leaving him out because he smokes the odd cigarette and has a bit of an attitude is laughable. He'd walk into England's midfield with ease.
 
Nainggolan has been one of the stand-out midfielders in the Serie A for at least 4 years now (He's featured in every FIFA Serie A Team of the Season since 2015 for example). Martinez obviously has a problem with his personality and as a result has picked a bloke who plays in China and another who is an absolute donkey who has featured in just half of his club teams fixtures this season instead. Nainggolan may play in an advanced forward role similar to Mertens and sort of De Bruyne but he's more than just an attacking midfielder, he's an all around midfield powerhouse that can do everything. Leaving him out because he smokes the odd cigarette and has a bit of an attitude is laughable. He'd walk into England's midfield with ease.
If he’s been such a stand out for so long, how come previous Belgian managers didn’t select him or start him when they did?
We’re all allowed opinions :thup: but once again we talk about those left out, maybe it’s good for England he’s not going.
 
If he’s been such a stand out for so long, how come previous Belgian managers didn’t select him or start him when they did?
We’re all allowed opinions :thup: but once again we talk about those left out, maybe it’s good for England he’s not going.
They did. He started hitting form in around 2014 I'd say, so he got 4 caps that year, 9 in 2015, 9 in 2016. From Wikipedia: "Nainggolan was an undisputed starter for the Marc Wilmots-led Red Devils during the UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying campaign." Then Martinez takes over and it all goes sour.

It's definitely good for England he's not going, since they're in our group. I reckon we'll draw with them, but still have to take 2nd in the group because Hazard and co will smash 5 past Panama whereas we nick a 1-0 win against them with a late penalty.
 
They did. He started hitting form in around 2014 I'd say, so he got 4 caps that year, 9 in 2015, 9 in 2016. From Wikipedia: "Nainggolan was an undisputed starter for the Marc Wilmots-led Red Devils during the UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying campaign." Then Martinez takes over and it all goes sour.

It's definitely good for England he's not going, since they're in our group. I reckon we'll draw with them, but still have to take 2nd in the group because Hazard and co will smash 5 past Panama whereas we nick a 1-0 win against them with a late penalty.
Nice bit of wiki selection :rofl:
No mention that he made his international debut 5 years before and made 5 appearances in 5 years and not selected for 2014 WC, then Wilmots substituted him and dropped him during the EC finals in 2016, then Wilmots is sacked, maybe his sacking was due to the players he picked not being good enough.
It’s easy to google info to support each pov.
:thup:
 
Nice bit of wiki selection :rofl:
No mention that he made his international debut 5 years before and made 5 appearances in 5 years and not selected for 2014 WC, then Wilmots substituted him and dropped him during the EC finals in 2016, then Wilmots is sacked, maybe his sacking was due to the players he picked not being good enough.
It’s easy to google info to support each pov.
:thup:
I told you Nainggolan hit form and prominence in 2014-ish, or did you just ignore that bit? Since he joined Roma he has become one of Europe's best midfielders. If you honestly think the Belgian side is better off with Fellaini then I'm just going to give up talking to you. Not sure if you actually watch football or not at this point.
 
I told you Nainggolan hit form and prominence in 2014-ish, or did you just ignore that bit? Since he joined Roma he has become one of Europe's best midfielders. If you honestly think the Belgian side is better off with Fellaini then I'm just going to give up talking to you. Not sure if you actually watch football or not at this point.
So because someone doesn’t agree with you about 1 footballer your toys are thrown, haven’t mentioned Fellaini so not sure what he’s got to do with it, explained succesive managers have had issues with him, he made his debut for Belgium in 2009 and was already known, still you ignored why he wasn’t selected for 2014 WC.
Stated he’s had a good season, my point was somehow Martinez is the idiot, maybe at 30yrs old it’s time he took responsibility for his behaviour.
He’s not been in the Belgian squad that has qualified for Russia as one of the favourites, but now he’s not going, somehow they’re weaker.
 
I told you Nainggolan hit form and prominence in 2014-ish, or did you just ignore that bit? Since he joined Roma he has become one of Europe's best midfielders. If you honestly think the Belgian side is better off with Fellaini then I'm just going to give up talking to you. Not sure if you actually watch football or not at this point.

Nainggolan has had issues with the national squad for a long time , he is a very talented player but his attitude is a big issue . He has retired from Internationals before I believe before the WC qualifiers after he was dropped For a qualifier I think it was , he was also left out of the previous World Cup - Nainggolan has been around and prominent since before 2014 .

He would be a decent player for Belgium but it’s not as if they are dropping their version of Messi. Witsel is more than capable of providing anything Nainggolan did. And Fellani actually plays a damn sight better for Belgium than he does for Utd but then if you actually watch football you might know all that
 
So because someone doesn’t agree with you about 1 footballer your toys are thrown, haven’t mentioned Fellaini so not sure what he’s got to do with it, explained succesive managers have had issues with him, he made his debut for Belgium in 2009 and was already known, still you ignored why he wasn’t selected for 2014 WC.
Stated he’s had a good season, my point was somehow Martinez is the idiot, maybe at 30yrs old it’s time he took responsibility for his behaviour.
He’s not been in the Belgian squad that has qualified for Russia as one of the favourites, but now he’s not going, somehow they’re weaker.
This settles it, you can't read. Twice now I've said he only came to prominence in mid-2014, was obviously too late to make the cut for the World Cup in that summer. He moved to Roma after that World Cup, after which he started to become the great player he is now. Like I already said. I shan't bother saying it anymore times, three should be enough. :)
 
This settles it, you can't read. Twice now I've said he only came to prominence in mid-2014, was obviously too late to make the cut for the World Cup in that summer. He moved to Roma after that World Cup, after which he started to become the great player he is now. Like I already said. I shan't bother saying it anymore times, three should be enough. :)

He’s played 4 games for Belgium since 2016. Basically under Martinez. Him being dropped is hardly a surprise.

During that time Belgium have qualified and are apparently one of the favourites. If they’ve got that tag without Nainggolan so far. I doubt they need it (him) now.

He had 2 years playing for Belgium and did nothing to cement his place in a squad. Not sure that makes Martínez an idiot.
 
This settles it, you can't read. Twice now I've said he only came to prominence in mid-2014, was obviously too late to make the cut for the World Cup in that summer. He moved to Roma after that World Cup, after which he started to become the great player he is now. Like I already said. I shan't bother saying it anymore times, three should be enough. :)
Rubbish, saying that’s when he came to prominence means that’s when you might of heard of him, he made his full international debut in 2009.
In his youth he was known as a future Belgian star and he never fully lived up to the tag.
 
He’s played 4 games for Belgium since 2016. Basically under Martinez. Him being dropped is hardly a surprise.

During that time Belgium have qualified and are apparently one of the favourites. If they’ve got that tag without Nainggolan so far. I doubt they need it (him) now.

He had 2 years playing for Belgium and did nothing to cement his place in a squad. Not sure that makes Martínez an idiot.
I don't see Belgium as one of the favourites at all. If they had a better manager they probably would be. They will probably make the last 8 and no more. Could see them slipping up in the last 16 even.

To point out that they qualified is hardly worth merit, for them to have not qualified from that group would have been a total disaster. They were only up against Greece and Bosnia. Sure, they made light work of it, so well done to them.
 
I don't see Belgium as one of the favourites at all. If they had a better manager they probably would be. They will probably make the last 8 and no more. Could see them slipping up in the last 16 even.

To point out that they qualified is hardly worth merit, for them to have not qualified from that group would have been a total disaster. They were only up against Greece and Bosnia. Sure, they made light work of it, so well done to them.

I don’t think they’ll do to well either, BUT they are touted by the bookies and media and done so without him being near the squad. Their odds haven’t suddently jumped 10 points at his exclusion.

He was part part of the squad 2 years ago and they went there with short odds again if I recall. How’d that work out?

he has only himself to blame, from what I’ve read about him, he’s a numpty and plenty of managers has disciplined him, so Martínez is just one of a few idiots....
 
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