World Cup Russia 2018

[USER1999]

Agree with that. I doubt the new manager would show him as much loyalty and patience as Wenger has. Wouldn't be surprised if he's one of the first out the door. (Then again if it's Arteta as manager I'm not sure I can see him being any more ruthless than Wenger was. )

Really? What do you actually know of Arteta? From all accounts in the press, he will be anything but soft.

 

[drewster]

Jack Wilshere in the press this morning barking that he was fit, strong and should be on the plane to Russia.

Playing well for 45 mins over a couple of seasons doesn't earn you a spot on the plane.

The kid's made of glass and blew England out last 2 times he's been picked. Why he thinks he has a divine right amazes me .

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Wouldn’t it be nice if the media forgot about those not going and concentrated on supporting those that are.
Southgate has made his choice and has a few reserves, he will be judged by the media in Russia, if he over achieves it’ll be Jack and Adam who? If he gets it wrong it’’ll be because he didn’t take them.
Our media cause more problems than there needs to be.

 

[Orikoru]

Really? What do you actually know of Arteta? From all accounts in the press, he will be anything but soft.

Actually I was just thinking because he played alongside these players not too long ago, it might be more difficult for him to cut them. More difficult than say a manager coming in with no connection to the club or the players. It's easier to sack a stranger than a friend.

 

[USER1999]

I think his appointment would be interesting. I think all the back room team will be Gazidis appointments, with Arteta as head coach, in effect. I think the manager, as such, will not exist, or certainly will not have absolute power. That will be held by Gazidis, Sanlehi, and Mislintat, with a bit of Josh Kroenke thrown in too.

 

[MegaSteve]

I think his appointment would be interesting. I think all the back room team will be Gazidis appointments, with Arteta as head coach, in effect. I think the manager, as such, will not exist, or certainly will not have absolute power. That will be held by Gazidis, Sanlehi, and Mislintat, with a bit of Josh Kroenke thrown in too.

Interesting... As in optimistic?

Or, interesting... As in scary?

I am concerned with Junior Kroenke having any say whatsoever...

 

[USER1999]

Interesting... As in optimistic?

Or, interesting... As in scary?

I am concerned with Junior Kroenke having any say whatsoever...

Arsenal are truly rubbish at present, and still 6th. They will not finish worse that 8th, what ever happens. If this appointment does not work, what is the worst that will happen? We will watch junk footy for a couple of years. Well, guess what? We have been anyway.

But, it might work, and things might get better.

Interesting.

 

[Orikoru]

Now that the squad has been announced I just want the World Cup to start now. I'm not down with waiting another whole month.

 

[MadAdey]

Arsenal are truly rubbish at present, and still 6th. They will not finish worse that 8th, what ever happens. If this appointment does not work, what is the worst that will happen? We will watch junk footy for a couple of years. Well, guess what? We have been anyway.

But, it might work, and things might get better.

Interesting.

I think you hit the nail on the head there. Arsenal no matter what happens will finish top 6, just because the team is too good not too. Problem Arsenal has with getting a new manager is what do they have to offer, no champion league football, a squad that needs some sorting out and will the new manager get a kings ransom to spend? So it's not like they will have the top coaches of Europe knocking down the door.

 

[MegaSteve]

Arsenal are truly rubbish at present, and still 6th. They will not finish worse that 8th, what ever happens. If this appointment does not work, what is the worst that will happen? We will watch junk footy for a couple of years. Well, guess what? We have been anyway.

But, it might work, and things might get better.

Interesting.

The future of football at Arsenal [and probably many other clubs] lies with decisions taken in corridors... All they want is a front man to take the flak and be despatched if necessary... Cold light of day tells me all the other names bandied about [front line managers with a history or record of management] were never considered...

Wrighty's phrase about Kroenke [Snr] keeps coming back to haunt me...
"The master of mediocrity"....

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I think you hit the nail on the head there. Arsenal no matter what happens will finish top 6, just because the team is too good not too. Problem Arsenal has with getting a new manager is what do they have to offer, no champion league football, a squad that needs some sorting out and will the new manager get a kings ransom to spend? So it's not like they will have the top coaches of Europe knocking down the door.

Haven’t Utd, Chelsea and LPool finished outside the top 6 in recent years with arguably stronger squads?

 

[USER1999]

The future of football at Arsenal [and probably many other clubs] lies with decisions taken in corridors... All they want is a front man to take the flak and be despatched if necessary... Cold light of day tells me all the other names bandied about [front line managers with a history or record of management] were never considered...

Wrighty's phrase about Kroenke [Snr] keeps coming back to haunt me...
"The master of mediocrity"....

Dont get me wrong, I wanted Nagelsman, or Hazenhutl, who are yound managers. But, I think Arteta could be a touch of genius. Better than the same old you would get with Ancellotti, etc, and Arsenal don't want a manager with an entourage.

They are not getting relegated any time soon, and so don't need a sure pair of hands. Go off grid, get someone with vision, a plan, an ethos, and go with that. Arteta? Why not? Poch rates him, Pep rates him. Give him a go.

But, if it really doesn't work, Gazidis has to fall on his sword.

 

[MadAdey]

Haven’t both Chelsea and LPool finished outside the top 6 in recent years with arguably stronger squads?

??????????

What has that got to do with anything. They might have done, all I’m saying is no matter who they get to manage the team, the squad is strong enough to still finish in the top 6. But to get back into the top 4 they might need a miracle worker or some serious squad overhaul. Man City will spend big, so will United, Chelsea and Liverpool, Spurs I’m not too sure what the plan is. So Arsenal will need to overcome their shortcomings from this season and
get a squad capable of competing again.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

??????????

What has that got to do with anything. They might have done, all I’m saying is no matter who they get to manage the team, the squad is strong enough to still finish in the top 6. But to get back into the top 4 they might need a miracle worker or some serious squad overhaul. Man City will spend big, so will United, Chelsea and Liverpool, Spurs I’m not too sure what the plan is. So Arsenal will need to overcome their shortcomings from this season and
get a squad capable of competing again.

You stated “Arsenal no matter what happens will finish top 6” that’s a guess and by no means a certainty, Arsenal fans have openly stated on here they may go backwards before going forwards.
A top 6 finish for any club is not guaranteed.

 

[USER1999]

I think the plan, is to go the Dortmund route. Identify up and coming players, buy at value, and turn over the squad with younth and enthusiasm. Hence signing Mavropoulis. Others will follow. Can't compete with the big boys on purchases. Bog average players going for crazy sums too.

Welcome to the roller coaster!

 

[Kellfire]

Martinez isn't taking Nainggolan to the WC. Hmmmm.

 

[Dan2501]

Fellaini and Witsel in. Nainggolan out. Makes sense. Martinez is an imbecile.

 

[Orikoru]

Martinez isn't taking Nainggolan to the WC. Hmmmm.

I told you all that Martinez was an idiot!

 

[Kellfire]

I told you all that Martinez was an idiot!

Well Nainggolan has retired from international football... I wonder if that will be reversed should Martinez leave. I don't get why they've just extended his contract though. Odd timing!

Benteke makes the initial squad, if anyone wondered...

 

[Orikoru]

Well Nainggolan has retired from international football... I wonder if that will be reversed should Martinez leave. I don't get why they've just extended his contract though. Odd timing!

Benteke makes the initial squad, if anyone wondered...

I do hate it when players do that though. "I never fancied her anyway!" Petulant.