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chrisd
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But we had a team who gave their all. They were one of the youngest teams we've sent to a final and they played 'football' and got to a semi final where you can only beat those you get drawn against. Southgate got them playing together where in the past team loyalties seemed to prevent players from gelling properly. There were no excuses, they did their best and I'm pretty sure will become a force in world football if this regime continues. No, they wouldn't have beaten France imo but I'm proud of them and am sure you are too Pat, and so, I believe, are most English people 😁
I really wanted to get as swept up as everyone else. I really did.
They certainly restored my faith in the team in regards to attitude and effort. I think we just lack a little class and it showed. For all the "success" we haven't really built a platform for future success unless we want to emulate wimbledon. We fashioned scarcely any real chances all tournament when compared to others. This was our best opportunity in years and i fear the media pressure will hammer these young lads now as the finals for the euros are back in england.
They certainly restored my faith in the team in regards to attitude and effort. I think we just lack a little class and it showed. For all the "success" we haven't really built a platform for future success unless we want to emulate wimbledon. We fashioned scarcely any real chances all tournament when compared to others. This was our best opportunity in years and i fear the media pressure will hammer these young lads now as the finals for the euros are back in england.
paddyc
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Yes Chris Im absolutely proud and gutted they did not do it, but to put things into perspective and I was not getting carried away by all the "its coming home " hype, we beat 4 teams that tbh were poor to mediocre, got beat in a reserve match against the belgians and then got taught a bit of a lesson in the art of possession and experience by Croatia. The future is bright however with such a young team and intelligent manager
Are you for real ?
I've never experienced any forum like this for folk getting themselves in such a tizzy. The only baiting that goes on is self induced, you lot wind yourselves up, I've barely got to sneeze on here and you're up in arms.
As for anti English hatred and bile, think you need a lie down in a dark room and possibly a re read of tonights posts in this topic as there was a lot of hatred all right, and a lot of petty pathetic name calling as well, strangely, believe it or not, none of it from me, go figure eh.
I honestly can't believe the state some of you get in over the internet, jeezo, what a state you get yourselves in.
PJ87
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How do you get such a good connection under your bridge?
Bunkermagnet
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Disappointed but overall quite happy with how far we got.
Personally I can’t help feeling we came unstuck by by not taking our chances, and wasting opportunities.
Sterling for me had a good game, but still has no end product. Kane was going too deep and slow, he’s a striker not midfield player.
Henderson appeared at times to be the only midfield player, and Ali didn’t seem fully at it.
However for all that, the squad have done us all proud and given many youngsters the belief that just because youre young, or not at one of the select top clubs, you can make the national team.
Personally I can’t help feeling we came unstuck by by not taking our chances, and wasting opportunities.
Sterling for me had a good game, but still has no end product. Kane was going too deep and slow, he’s a striker not midfield player.
Henderson appeared at times to be the only midfield player, and Ali didn’t seem fully at it.
However for all that, the squad have done us all proud and given many youngsters the belief that just because youre young, or not at one of the select top clubs, you can make the national team.
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Doon frae Troon
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Get home from the bowls to watch recorded game, towards the end of the 1st half my good lady says, 'are you going to watch the extra time as well'. Grrrrrrrrrr.
Great game, good fitba from both sides.
England started losing it at 25 mins when for some reason they stopped pressing and started playing tippy tappy in defence.
Their confidence went after that.
The manager and team are certainly in a good place for 2022.
Best England team for over 30 years.
Great game, good fitba from both sides.
England started losing it at 25 mins when for some reason they stopped pressing and started playing tippy tappy in defence.
Their confidence went after that.
The manager and team are certainly in a good place for 2022.
Best England team for over 30 years.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Harry Kane I believe got caught up in the hype of being captain and became a shell of the player he really is, Southgate should have made Henderson captain. Very impressed with Trippier, I'm surprised with his talent why it's taken him so long to shine, I have to say if he played for Liverpool they would have 2 of the best full backs in Britian.
Hard lines fellas, the draw was kind to England but you performed well, I fancy at the next Euros you'll have a chance and keep that nucleus of the team together going into the next world cup and you'll be semis again easily
Hard lines fellas, the draw was kind to England but you performed well, I fancy at the next Euros you'll have a chance and keep that nucleus of the team together going into the next world cup and you'll be semis again easily
Junior
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Best team won, draw was kind to England but the spirit and togetherness of the English team captivated the nation. Love how there seemed to be no egos throughout the side. I've enjoyed this world cup and I hope Croatia can give France a game in the final.
After the first half I thought we were the better side, but the Croatia came at us and we panicked a lot and struggled to keep the ball and any shape at all. Kane had a bad day at the office, but to be fair, Croatia knew he was our main threat and marked him out of the game. I'd have got Loftus-Cheek on for Lingaard. Ifs and buts though.
After the first half I thought we were the better side, but the Croatia came at us and we panicked a lot and struggled to keep the ball and any shape at all. Kane had a bad day at the office, but to be fair, Croatia knew he was our main threat and marked him out of the game. I'd have got Loftus-Cheek on for Lingaard. Ifs and buts though.
Crazyface
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Lots of room for improvement, going off the sad state of my voice this morning. 
Big learning curve for them all. Great to see them trying to play football, but the back passing was getting on my households nerves and we, and i'm sure everyone else saw what was coming. Mr Southgate has a lot to learn as well. Kane out on his feet after 5 minutes should have been subbed at 1/2 time. Stirling is a pesky player to be used as a sub ONLY when legs are tired. Rashford is a STARTER EVERY GAME. I think the reason we may not have put subs on early is that we didn't have anyone else that could do any better. This is a massive problem. Walker had his best game. Excellent dedication to the cause last night. Lets not get carried away though.
Big learning curve for them all. Great to see them trying to play football, but the back passing was getting on my households nerves and we, and i'm sure everyone else saw what was coming. Mr Southgate has a lot to learn as well. Kane out on his feet after 5 minutes should have been subbed at 1/2 time. Stirling is a pesky player to be used as a sub ONLY when legs are tired. Rashford is a STARTER EVERY GAME. I think the reason we may not have put subs on early is that we didn't have anyone else that could do any better. This is a massive problem. Walker had his best game. Excellent dedication to the cause last night. Lets not get carried away though.
Junior
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But that's been the most exciting thing about this world cup...... There's always been that glimmer of hope because the lesser teams have stood up against the big boys. Spain only just beating Iran 1-0, Morocco drawing with them, before Russia beating them. Switzerland holding Brazil to a draw, South Korea beating Germany, Croatia pumping the Argies 3-0.
You just never knew 100% what was going to happen.
Blue in Munich
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I'd fully agree with the captaincy point on Kane, not sure I'd give it to Henderson either; always been a fan of a team having the captain in defence so that he can see all in front of him, never sure that it works so well with your main striker being captain. Also makes subbing him off difficult for mr.
As to who, I'm not sure there's a natural leader out there I would have as captain, and I think that's part of the issue last night. For all the togetherness, it seems no one wanted to stand out, make decisions and get a grip on the game, which was possibly part of the downfall. The other issue last night was not going into half time with a much more substantial lead; Croatia should have been dead and buried at half time and going in only one down must have given them hope in my opinion.
Don Barzini
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I dunno about that. There wasn't an obvious "scapegoat" for our loss i.e. no penalty miss, no-one got sent off etc. We just got beaten. The newspaper headlines are all pretty much the same this morning - Returning as heroes, did us proud, etc etc.
I do fear that on the back of this, the press will revert to type in the future and steadily pile on the pressure and expectation though.
MegaSteve
Tour Winner
Well my chin hurts and I have a huge bruise on my chest …
Furthermore, I have a house full of beer and no reason to drink it…
#poohappens
And, #nexttime
I'd better play well today or I am really going to have the hump...
…Furthermore, I have a house full of beer and no reason to drink it
…#poohappens
And, #nexttime
I'd better play well today or I am really going to have the hump...
Dan2501
Tour Winner
Just to rub salt into the wounds, it's bloody raining in Manchester for the first time since the World Cup started.
bobmac
Major Champion
I read somewhere it was the referees fault?
I would have Henderson or Stones as captain, Kane is not a natural in that role. Let him score goals, nothing more.
The job going forward is to add creativity and goals from open play into the team. Alli, Lindgard and Sterling are not producing those as a three so the trio needs breaking up. Keep two out of the three, rotate them perhaps, but a different type of player is needed in midfield to take us forward. RLC, The Ox, both have a chance to grab that role, perhaps others that haven't come to mind yet this morning.
Only change at the back for me would be Rose for Young, the rest are worthy of their places.
I'd like to see Southgate be more pro-active with his substitutes but I accept that is easy to say from the comfort of a chair. Maybe he will be going forward, he must have felt huge pressure during this tournament so caution is understandable.
It's nice to wake up the morning after and still feel okay about going out. Plenty to be proud about, the team have had us smile again. That is an achievement in itself.
The job going forward is to add creativity and goals from open play into the team. Alli, Lindgard and Sterling are not producing those as a three so the trio needs breaking up. Keep two out of the three, rotate them perhaps, but a different type of player is needed in midfield to take us forward. RLC, The Ox, both have a chance to grab that role, perhaps others that haven't come to mind yet this morning.
Only change at the back for me would be Rose for Young, the rest are worthy of their places.
I'd like to see Southgate be more pro-active with his substitutes but I accept that is easy to say from the comfort of a chair. Maybe he will be going forward, he must have felt huge pressure during this tournament so caution is understandable.
It's nice to wake up the morning after and still feel okay about going out. Plenty to be proud about, the team have had us smile again. That is an achievement in itself.
