Woolwich soldier killing

[AuburnWarrior]

IMO we should not let one more person into this country from places like Pakistan and Somalia.

Yeah, I'm sure Jimmy Saville was born in Islamabad!

Alas, there is no quick answer to today's events in Woolwich. One of the guys involved appears to be London born and bred, judging by his accent.

What is worrying is that the war in Iraq/Afghanistan is potentially an awful lot closer to home!

I am now genuinely worried for the near future - will there be reprisal attacks? Will there be further murders? There's a massive mosque in Woolwich - will that get torched?

Sad, sad times.

 

[Slime]

Shocked and saddened.
Initial thoughts go to the family of that poor man.
Secondary thoughts on how we can prevent further atrocities .................. and I just don't have an answer.
Death penalty for sure, but that's too little too late, I really have no answer.
I'm so angry!

Slime.

P.S. Getting rid of people such as Abu Qatada would be a step in the right direction.

 

[DAVEYBOY]

Yeah, I'm sure Jimmy Saville was born in Islamabad!

Alas, there is no quick answer to today's events in Woolwich. One of the guys involved appears to be London born and bred, judging by his accent.

What is worrying is that the war in Iraq/Afghanistan is potentially an awful lot closer to home!

I am now genuinely worried for the near future - will there be reprisal attacks? Will there be further murders? There's a massive mosque in Woolwich - will that get torched?

Sad, sad times.

The day will come when war will come to us and we fight against them in the streets, will the police be able to stop it... They didn't do a great job with the riots.

It's good the army will be on our side.

News flash!!! A mosque has been attacked in Essex. So people are seeking revenge already.

 

[User20205]

And this is part of the problem, our own sticking up for these people. I am guessing your not an immigrant?

My ethnic background is irrelevant & you know nothing about the background of the attackers & yet are willing to condemn a whole section of the population.

It's a shocking appalling act, it's only just happened but you want to use it to make some cheap political point, at least wait until some more facts are known.

I would class myself as 'one of our own'. I think you and I are pretty far apart in attitude

 

[sawtooth]

Extremely sad, god bless the soldier and his family.

 

[Fish]

My ethnic background is irrelevant & you know nothing about the background of the attackers & yet are willing to condemn a whole section of the population.

It's a shocking appalling act, it's only just happened but you want to use it to make some cheap political point, at least wait until some more facts are known.

I would class myself as 'one of our own'. I think you and I are pretty far apart in attitude

Here's a fact!

The man with the machete's full statement to the camera was:

"We swear by Almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you. The only reasons we have done this is because Muslims are dying every day. This British soldier is an eye for an eye a tooth for tooth. We apologise that women had to see this today but in our lands our women have to see the same. You people will never be safe. Remove your government. They don't care about you."

FACT!!

 

[User20205]

What is worrying is that the war in Iraq/Afghanistan is potentially an awful lot closer to home!



Sad, sad times.

agree 100% we don't need to import terrorists, we have enough of our own. The 7/7 bombers were UK citizens

 

[stevie_r]

The day will come when war will come to us and we fight against them in the streets, will the police be able to stop it... They didn't do a great job with the riots.

It's good the army will be on our side.

News flash!!! A mosque has been attacked in Essex. So people are seeking revenge already.

Enoch Powell predicted that before you were even thought of, The infamous 'Rivers of Blood' speech, wasn't true then, isn't true now.

 

[User20205]

Here's a fact!

The man with the machete's full statement to the camera was:

"We swear by Almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you. The only reasons we have done this is because Muslims are dying every day. This British soldier is an eye for an eye a tooth for tooth. We apologise that women had to see this today but in our lands our women have to see the same. You people will never be safe. Remove your government. They don't care about you."

FACT!!

doesn't mean he's not from the UK

 

[User20205]

News flash!!! A mosque has been attacked in Essex. So people are seeking revenge already.

How does that make you feel ?

 

[DAVEYBOY]

Yes living in Birmingham gives me daily contact with these people and I'm not the type who waits around to see if a dodgy looking Muslim is peaceful or not.

One of our own who has more than likely fought for our country has been butchered by these pieces of absolute :sbox:

Lets wait for the background of these scum bags to come out then we will continue the discussion.

 

[DAVEYBOY]

How does that make you feel ?

Like they said themselves an eye for an eye.

 

[AuburnWarrior]

And this is part of the problem, our own sticking up for these people. I am guessing your not an immigrant?

But one of them was 'our own'! He sounded very much born and bred London.

That's what makes this a very, very difficult and delicate issue.

What do you suggest? We round up everyone with a foreign accent, everyone with dark skin and everyone who isn't a Christian? What would we do with them?

 

[User20205]

Like they said themselves an eye for an eye.

two radicalised criminals attack and kill an innocent soldier and you want more innocent people to suffer

if you really believe that you are kind of missing the whole point of what we are fighting for.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Alas, there is no quick answer to today's events in Woolwich. One of the guys involved appears to be London born and bred, judging by his accent.

Agreed, but he then talks about what happens in "our land", which suggests that whilst probably born here, his sympathies lie further overseas.

Mine lie with the young man's family. RIP.

 

[AuburnWarrior]

I'm not the type who waits around to see if a dodgy looking Muslim is peaceful or not.

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What does that mean?

Are you implying that you randomly attack Muslim looking people? I hope not.

 

[DAVEYBOY]

I'm going to leave this thread with this video that I posted on another thread on here the other day... Watch it then think about what you would do with these people if you had the power.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=psZBaJU_Cvo

I'm not going to read further or comment further as I will get wound up and post my real views which I can imagine you can already guess a lot of them. Living in Birmingham has made me a little less tolerant towards these types than most.

 

[Fish]

But one of them was 'our own'! He sounded very much born and bred London.

That's what makes this a very, very difficult and delicate issue.

What do you suggest? We round up everyone with a foreign accent, everyone with dark skin and everyone who isn't a Christian? What would we do with them?

We are more than aware of who the radical clerics are and where their teaching which turn these individuals. We have to start getting rid of them without all the human rights rubbish that they surround and protect themselves with.

We have to start getting tough politically, we are an island, it should be so much easier but we have too many liberal views even when appalling acts like this happen and our on laws are overturned by Brussels, ridiculous!

 

[beggsy]

Anyone that sticks up for these dirty vile creatures needs a slap themselves end of story

 

[stevie_r]

Agreed, but he then talks about what happens in "our land", which suggests that whilst probably born here, his sympathies lie further overseas.

Mine lie with the young man's family. RIP.

I have long held a theory regarding this issue, I believe that to a substantial number of Muslims the issue of nationality is totally immaterial and an irrelevance, they belong to the nation of Islam. Their 'lands' could therefore be any traditionally muslim country - and in this case any where there is aggressive western or Israeli interference.