Woolwich soldier killing

[richy]

Absolutely astonished with certain peoples views on here.
I served 23 years in the forces including many war zones, 5 tours of Belfast, the Falklands, Iraq, Sierra leone, Bosnia and Kosova, to read people siding with these fanatics makes my blood boil
God rest the young soldier and my thoughts are with his family and friends.
Good-bye golf monthly.

Who's siding with them?

 

[In_The_Rough]

Oh dear

http://news.sky.com/story/1094514/woolwich-riot-police-contain-edl-supporters

Brave with their masks on ain't they?

Was always gonna happen. Going to have masks on though aren't they as they will no doubt be investigated or put on file

 

[Fish]

Was always gonna happen. Going to have masks on though aren't they as they will no doubt be investigated or put on file

But if they believe their actions to be just, why cover up, the murderers didn't?

Showing absolutely no compassion to the family of the lost soldier and no doubt terrifying local families, old & young with their actions. They don't represent anyone other than bigots but the taxpayer (of which they will not be) will pick up the bill again for their vandalism!

 

[In_The_Rough]

But if they believe their actions to be just, why cover up, the murderers didn't?

Showing absolutely no compassion to the family of the lost soldier and no doubt terrifying local families, old & young with their actions. They don't represent anyone other than bigots but the taxpayer (of which they will not be) will pick up the bill again for their vandalism!

Because they wanted to be caught where as the EDL members don't? Not sure you can label those at the riot as being non taxpayers either- they might be but then again they might not. Not condoning rioting by the way but if I were one of them there I would not want to be identified either

 

[stevie_r]

Absolutely astonished with certain peoples views on here.
I served 23 years in the forces including many war zones, 5 tours of Belfast, the Falklands, Iraq, Sierra leone, Bosnia and Kosova, to read people siding with these fanatics makes my blood boil
God rest the young soldier and my thoughts are with his family and friends.
Good-bye golf monthly.

quote where people have sided with them

 

[stevie_r]

But if they believe their actions to be just, why cover up, the murderers didn't?

Showing absolutely no compassion to the family of the lost soldier and no doubt terrifying local families, old & young with their actions. They don't represent anyone other than bigots but the taxpayer (of which they will not be) will pick up the bill again for their vandalism!

Ridiculous stereotypical generalisation

 

[blackpuddinmonster]

I just don't want it to be a justification for this. If we start acting like the taliban we have lost !

A few days ago, despite having doubts i said that one day we would agree on something. Todays that day.
I've avoided getting involved in this thread because i'am absolutly appalled by the actions of these two individuals,and whats happening here is exactly what they want to happen.
I don't have any answers, i don't have any solutions,but i have an idea what isn't the answer.
You don't fight extremisn with extremism,because it just breeds more extremisn. Its a vicious circle. Come on people were're better than this. Were're better than them.
Instead of seeking revenge we would be better following the example of people like Colin and Wendy Parry.Their immense bravery and fortitude in the face of a simular attrocity did more to change radical idealism in Ireland and bring about peace, than anything else in the previous 24 yrs.
We are supposed to be the civilised ones here. Lets keep it that way. Please.

 

[JPH]

A few days ago, despite having doubts i said that one day we would agree on something. Todays that day.
I've avoided getting involved in this thread because i'am absolutly appalled by the actions of these two individuals,and whats happening here is exactly what they want to happen.
I don't have any answers, i don't have any solutions,but i have an idea what isn't the answer.
You don't fight extremisn with extremism,because it just breeds more extremisn. Its a vicious circle. Come on people were're better than this. Were're better than them.
Instead of seeking revenge we would be better following the example of people like Colin and Wendy Parry.Their immense bravery and fortitude in the face of a simular attrocity did more to change radical idealism in Ireland and bring about peace, than anything else in the previous 24 yrs.
We are supposed to be the civilised ones here. Lets keep it that way. Please.

word

 

[Hacker Khan]

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Good article in the Daily mash today which I will quote verbatim

MEN wearing balaclavas have been making a dreadful situation better.

Fat ninjas



As nearly all Britons find themselves able to carry on with the peaceful mundanity of their lives, men wearing stupid knitted masks offered Britain the prospect of civil war that it has been yearning for.


Balaclava fan Tom Logan said: “What this country needs now is for everyone to start lobbing petrol bombs around. “Anyone who cares about England has a duty to set it on fire, or at least smash a bunch of windows. “Also, stop thinking. Bypass your brain, jump to hate-filled conclusions and let rampant prejudice be your guide.”


Professor Henry Brubaker said: “History, and also common sense, tells us that in any situation the person whose features are disguised by a stupid hat is not the person you should listen to. “In fact masks in general, whether tight-fitting on part of a white pointy hat, are a good indicator of insanity, unless it’s Halloween or you’re at an elite fictional orgy.


Muslim father-of-two Rafi Ahmed said: “As far as I’m aware, I’ve got no plans to bring Western civilisation to its knees. “I’ll probably go to work, come home and eat my tea.”

 

[Region3]

Weird, last thing I would think of doing if a big black chava with a cleaver and blood all over his hands approached me would be to whip my mobile out to film him.

Each to their own.

There was also a woman who tried to talk the weapons from one attacker, and others who shielded the body from further attack and stood between the attackers and the body to do so.

Incredible.

 

[Aztecs27]

Love the Daily Mash!

That last quote is genius.

 

[Sweep]

We are more than aware of who the radical clerics are and where their teaching which turn these individuals. We have to start getting rid of them without all the human rights rubbish that they surround and protect themselves with.

We have to start getting tough politically, we are an island, it should be so much easier but we have too many liberal views even when appalling acts like this happen and our on laws are overturned by Brussels, ridiculous!

Excellent post.

 

[mcbroon]

A few days ago, despite having doubts i said that one day we would agree on something. Todays that day.
I've avoided getting involved in this thread because i'am absolutly appalled by the actions of these two individuals,and whats happening here is exactly what they want to happen.
I don't have any answers, i don't have any solutions,but i have an idea what isn't the answer.
You don't fight extremisn with extremism,because it just breeds more extremisn. Its a vicious circle. Come on people were're better than this. Were're better than them.
Instead of seeking revenge we would be better following the example of people like Colin and Wendy Parry.Their immense bravery and fortitude in the face of a simular attrocity did more to change radical idealism in Ireland and bring about peace, than anything else in the previous 24 yrs.
We are supposed to be the civilised ones here. Lets keep it that way. Please.

Well said BPM.

I don't have any answers either, I just hope there's no serious reprisals, no copycat efforts and that the perpetrators face the full force of the justice system.

I can't really get my head around what has happened here. It's literally beyond my comprehension that anyone can do that to another person. It's horrible for the victim's family, and that's where our thoughts should be.

Also, I've read every post on this thread and nowhere have I seen anything that remotely resembles support for the killers. Nobody is on their side.

 

[Sweep]

No one asked me if I wanted to be multicultural! I was quite happy with our culture as it was. This was decided by the political elite who dont know what its like to live in a multicultural society.

Some people on here need to open their eyes to what kind of Britain we are preparing for our children and grandchildren.

Excellent post.
"Multiculturalism in the United Kingdom has failed". Now who said that?...... Oh yes, David Cameron.

 

[cookelad]

Last night as my train approached Woolwich Dockyard station n announcement was made to the effect "This train will not be stopping at Woolwich Arsenal station tonight any commuters for Woolwich Arsenal should use Plumstead Station".

OK that's fine Plumstead is approx 500yards further along the line and it makes no difference to the distance I walk, if anything it's a little closer but the area I would have to walk through is normally what I would call a little less 'friendly' than the Arsenal route. Of course what seems to have been forgotten was that Plumstead Station is 100yards or so from........ a mosque, so anybody catching a train to join in with the "EDL" "protest" would be getting off the train and walking straight past said mosque back towards the square in Woolwich. Needless to say there was a massive police presence outside the building and as far as I'm aware any trouble outside was non-existent or quickly stamped out.

 

[JPH]

Excellent post.
"Multiculturalism in the United Kingdom has failed". Now who said that?...... Oh yes, David Cameron.

Like he knows his bottom from his elbow

 

[Aztecs27]

An actual quote from someone in our office today.

"Just send them all back to where they came from"

What, South London?

 

[Fish]

Statement I never like hearing just announced on Sky, "security services have confirmed that the 2 involved were known to them!"

 

[SyR]

'Puts on flameproof suit and stands braced for an infraction'

IMO we should not let one more person into this country from places like Pakistan and Somalia.

This post is not designed to be racist but as a consideration to improve our National security. IMO these countries need to address the terrorist fractions in their countries before we assist them any further.

What an overtly racist statement. Shame on you.


I feel for the victim of this attack. It's a vile and shocking crime. I'm glad they were caught and I just hope our legal system is strong enough to hand out lengthy terms for these two.

 

[Fish]

What an overtly racist statement. Shame on you.


I feel for the victim of this attack. It's a vile and shocking crime. I'm glad they were caught and I just hope our legal system is strong enough to hand out lengthy terms for these two.

"Lengthy"?

How about INDEFINITE!!