Why is secvond hand worth nothing?

[drawboy]

Why are used clubs worth nothing? Even when they are in nearly new condition, they seem to be worth next to nothing. Just because someone has hit them a few times before you does it mean that they are worth less than half the retail price paid?
No vat to pay to the money grabbing government but still they are worth peanuts.

 

[Oddsocks]

Where's this come from DB.

 

[brendy]

Probably a few reasons including desirability, audience at that given time of selling, authenticity and unknown treatment of said club.

 

[Phil2511]

Why are used clubs worth nothing? Even when they are in nearly new condition, they seem to be worth next to nothing. Just because someone has hit them a few times before you does it mean that they are worth less than half the retail price paid?
No vat to pay to the money grabbing government but still they are worth peanuts.

Seems to be the same everywhere, currently bit of a touchy subject at my place after the Captain was asked £180 and his old 910 to trade up to a 913.

 

[Wayman]

Same as a car. Say buy one 20grabd drive it away day later got back they will give you 18grand!

 

[drawboy]

Where's this come from DB.

Just a generalisation really, I am going to sell my two mizzie hybrids but I know that I can only sell them for less than half of their worth and that when I do sell them I will not be able to buy one new club that will be of less quality than the one's I will be selling. Just because something has been hit a few times does that mean they are worth nothing?

 

[fundy]

i guess the ultimate answer is supply and demand. too many of us want brand new shinies and/or custom fit! personally happy to buy ex demo or a club someone hasnt got on with for half price but not always easy to find the spec I want sadly, only place i do usually is putters

 

[Oddsocks]

To put a flip on it I try to buy newish used and generally buy pretty smart with little or no loss.

Example: my CV irons were last seasons when I brought them, they had been used for three rounds and this was backed up by the pro the comer from only three weeks prior to my purchase.

New £699 wish
Discounted at several stores as last year's £379
Three rounds old £250.

I have been contemplating new irons and mine have been booked by a playing partner at £225.

£25 for six months use is a very small loss

 

[duncan mackie]

Just a generalisation really, I am going to sell my two mizzie hybrids but I know that I can only sell them for less than half of their worth and that when I do sell them I will not be able to buy one new club that will be of less quality than the one's I will be selling. Just because something has been hit a few times does that mean they are worth nothing?

on the one hand the price you can get for nearly new SH clubs relates more to the underlying trade price of the new club than the retail inc VAT purchase price, and on the other, people prepared to pay retail prices for new clubs are only interested in brand new models...

a new ebay R1 driver will command about £240 currently - a SH one in as new condition won't be much less than that at the moment.

 

[Phil2511]

Just a generalisation really, I am going to sell my two mizzie hybrids but I know that I can only sell them for less than half of their worth and that when I do sell them I will not be able to buy one new club that will be of less quality than the one's I will be selling. Just because something has been hit a few times does that mean they are worth nothing?

In all the shops round here once the new range hits stores the old range gets sold for a significantly reduced price.

A £250 driver is then being sold for £120 new. So whose going to pay more than £80 for a mint second hand version.

So many new clubs hitting the shelves and the big stores always have a load of last years model left over and usually advertised on radio. So everyone hears the prices.

Then from what I see at my place it seems to be split 50/50. 1/2 want the latest shiney, the other half can't afford to change any clubs and if they do then its only for a super bargain.

So lots of 2nd hand stuff available with not enough customers buying it also keeps prices down.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I don't tend to buy second hand and to be honest if I am looking to move stuff on, I'll take the best price I can get at the time bit won't lose too mch sleep if the price is a little under what I want. It is usually a case of getting it out of the house at the time to appease the wife.

 

[ScienceBoy]

Things are worth what people will pay for them.

If you buy second hand stuff you can get a fantastic deal out there... it does swing both ways you see!

 

[GB72]

I think that this is part of the issue in that the golf retailers have effectively created a second tier of sales. Now you have the new and latest releases as the top level and then previous year's models selling new at partly or massively reduced prices. Take the Ping G range. At present you can buy new a G25, G20 or G15 driver brand new so you can have a new, quality Ping driver for as little as £120 if you are happy to take an older model. This means that the value of second hand sales is going to be even lower. Again. look at the TM RBZ irons. 6-8 months ago they were top tier and cost £400-£500. The rocketblades are now the newest purchase so RBZ irons can be bought for £250 and a second hand set would be lucky to get more than £175. For alot of people second hand is only an attractive option of they are dirt cheap, otherwise a massively reduced new set of last year's clubs is a far more attractive prospect.

 

[lyden]

I've no problem buying nearly new, second hand is a different ball game though. I wouldn't want to buy my clubs after I've used them, they already look battered and I've only had them 5 months :|

 

[Pin-seeker]

It's not only golf clubs. Tv's,mobile phones,cars. You name it.

 

[drawboy]

I've no problem buying nearly new, second hand is a different ball game though. I wouldn't want to buy my clubs after I've used them, they already look battered and I've only had them 5 months :|

Hmnnn, not sure if this is a relevant point. seems a bit personal to you, not everyone treats their clubs like you do, if you carry a hybrid for instance it will probably have been hit once maybe twice per round, if it is say 5 rounds old is it really only worth 1/3 of it's original price?

 

[GB72]

Hmnnn, not sure if this is a relevant point. seems a bit personal to you, not everyone treats their clubs like you do, if you carry a hybrid for instance it will probably have been hit once maybe twice per round, if it is say 5 rounds old is it really only worth 1/3 of it's original price?

That is part of the second hand gamble. You use your hybrid one or twice a round, I use mine 10-20 times a round so gets battered far more quickly. They both could be the same age but yours would be a better buy than mine. There is also the subjective nature of how you 'rate' the condition. You also have to look at what your second hand club sells for new.
There are just too many cheap clubs around now. There are whole companies that just sell bargain clubs from older ranges so there is so much competing with your second hand club.

 

[DappaDonDave]

Second hand nearly new condition is true price, retail is true price + marketing BS.

Adverts are funded by income, income generated by adverts. It's a vicious circle which means we end up paying more.

 

[One Planer]

In my opinion, places like eBay don't help.

I know people will only pay what they are willing to but having a cheap route to the masses (eBay) and places like that being flooded with the same product, prices will always be driven down, unless its something pretty special.

If you can buy used, that has seen minimal use you can get some real bargains.

 

[kid2]

If im buying ill always wait....There is always someone that wants new clubs every year...Ok if they have the money..I dont so i wait...Take my 910 driver......Id say it was hit less than 3 or 4 times......Mint condition....It was nearly 325 euro new the season they came out......I bought it 2 months ago for 150 euro..........

I was talking about this very point the other day in our local shop.....Ping G20 irons....New last year nearly 700 euro....Out comes the G25's a few weeks ago....700 euro for 4 to SW .......And the G20's can now be got brand spanking new because of surplus stock for 425 euro...

I think it has a lot to do with how fast and the amount of products being released every year.....The more that are released the less money everything else is ...... The manufactures are just flooding the markets with new kit and from what i can see there isnt enough demand there for it....