JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
Out of interest, do you drink alcohol?
Out of interest, do you drink alcohol?
What did the non-smoker die of?
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
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You just beat me to it.
Yet both 'owners' of the lungs are dead.
I don't care if smoking kills me, something will.
I 'spose I'd better answer the question, I believe I smoke because it relaxes me, obviously it's partly because I am addicted but I enjoy a lot of the cigarettes I smoke - I don't like being tied to it but that's just down to will power of just saying NO to a few cigarettes here and there.
If I went on a country drive and stopped off at a place that had an amazing view I'd REALLY enjoy it if I sat there with a cigarette and took in the view, if not I'd be back in the car in 30 seconds because there's no point just staring at something for 5 minutes... would probably be the same if I stopped and had a coffee.... but I ain't got a flask
My kids have asked me why I smoke and I just tell them that I am addicted, I say that I wish I'd never started as it's horrible. I don't say that I enjoy it.
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You just beat me to it.
Yet both 'owners' of the lungs are dead.
I don't care if smoking kills me, something will.
I 'spose I'd better answer the question, I believe I smoke because it relaxes me, obviously it's partly because I am addicted but I enjoy a lot of the cigarettes I smoke - I don't like being tied to it but that's just down to will power of just saying NO to a few cigarettes here and there.
If I went on a country drive and stopped off at a place that had an amazing view I'd REALLY enjoy it if I sat there with a cigarette and took in the view, if not I'd be back in the car in 30 seconds because there's no point just staring at something for 5 minutes... would probably be the same if I stopped and had a coffee.... but I ain't got a flask
My kids have asked me why I smoke and I just tell them that I am addicted, I say that I wish I'd never started as it's horrible. I don't say that I enjoy it.
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In that picture I don't know - but the ones I saw in front of me - the ones of a smoker was 56 year old man who died of lung cancer the other one was a 67 man who died in a car accident.
Yes everyone will die at some stage in their lives - hence why I would prefer now to reduce the odds of my last years suffering from a disease brought on by smoking.
Yes everyone will die at some stage in their lives - hence why I would prefer now to reduce the odds of my last years suffering from a disease brought on by smoking.
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vkurup
Guest
yes.. social drinker.. I am sure I will get a question about alcohol at some point.
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c1973
Guest
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You just beat me to it.
Yet both 'owners' of the lungs are dead.
I don't care if smoking kills me, something will.
I 'spose I'd better answer the question, I believe I smoke because it relaxes me, obviously it's partly because I am addicted but I enjoy a lot of the cigarettes I smoke - I don't like being tied to it but that's just down to will power of just saying NO to a few cigarettes here and there.
If I went on a country drive and stopped off at a place that had an amazing view I'd REALLY enjoy it if I sat there with a cigarette and took in the view, if not I'd be back in the car in 30 seconds because there's no point just staring at something for 5 minutes... would probably be the same if I stopped and had a coffee.... but I ain't got a flask
My kids have asked me why I smoke and I just tell them that I am addicted, I say that I wish I'd never started as it's horrible. I don't say that I enjoy it.
Good post that. Pretty much summed up my thoughts when I smoked.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I managed to stop.
HarryW
Newbie
My first cig was an embassy when I was around 16. Remember the buzz thinking wow. Few thousand later and I regret picking it up.
Dad, a 60 a day man, had emphysema in his last 5 years.
Mum, 40 a day, arteries supplying the bowel furred up - horrible disgusting death.
Mum-in-law took up chain smoking when her husband died. A respiratory attack, from which she was resuscitated, resulted in brain damage leading to vascular dementia and COPD.
And having seen all 3 struggle and die my wife still smokes... madness
Mum, 40 a day, arteries supplying the bowel furred up - horrible disgusting death.
Mum-in-law took up chain smoking when her husband died. A respiratory attack, from which she was resuscitated, resulted in brain damage leading to vascular dementia and COPD.
And having seen all 3 struggle and die my wife still smokes... madness
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Can only suggest that you reiterate the same reason given when the kid was initially told why smoking is bad and take it from there
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
You'll hopefully find primary schools do some good work in warning the kids the dangers of smoking. I just tell my daughter (who is slightly older) that it will kill you earlier than you would normally die, it makes you smell, it is very addictive and expensive, so the best thing is never to start. Which is much the same message the schools give nowadays. Luckily very few friends or family I know smoke so it is not something she is exposed to very often.
RollinThunder
Assistant Pro
When I was about 16 and started going out, it was when the smoking ban came in. All of my friends smoked when they were drinking, so they'd all nip out to the smoking area, and I'd be left inside on my own, so eventually I started having the odd one when I was having a drink, just to feel part of the group. Some of my friends eventually carried on the habit into their sober life, and started doing it in the day too, but generally speaking, given the price, a lot have stopped altogether, including myself, but you will be surprised how many (particularly young) people only smoke when they're drinking.
I used to enjoy it, because it broke up time, and gave you some fresh (somewhat) air, and maybe time to have a private, quieter conversation with someone. I picked up a lot of girls in smoking areas, girls who I wouldn't have had much of a chance with inside a pub, just because we were pretty much alone and conversation was much easier.
I was in Germany for a while with work, and it seemed like 90% of the population smoked. In a pub with maybe 20 people, there was me, another fellow, and a couple who didn't smoke. They can't have the health warnings and campaigns as we do here.
I used to enjoy it, because it broke up time, and gave you some fresh (somewhat) air, and maybe time to have a private, quieter conversation with someone. I picked up a lot of girls in smoking areas, girls who I wouldn't have had much of a chance with inside a pub, just because we were pretty much alone and conversation was much easier.
I was in Germany for a while with work, and it seemed like 90% of the population smoked. In a pub with maybe 20 people, there was me, another fellow, and a couple who didn't smoke. They can't have the health warnings and campaigns as we do here.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
[video]https://youtu.be/6UsHHOCH4q8[/video]
This is very interesting, but there may be some swearing in this.
This is very interesting, but there may be some swearing in this.
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vkurup
Guest
Actually, the concept of smoking being bad was discussed at school, so never had that chat..
MegaSteve
Tour Winner
I worked with somebody who was a vegan because she didn't wish to poison her body...
Yet, she was a regular visitor and user of the smokers hut
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Never worked out her logic on that...
Yet, she was a regular visitor and user of the smokers hut
...Never worked out her logic on that...
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Doesn't really matter, I'm hopeful the school didn't just say "smoking is bad... that is all"
Its a conversation to see why he thinks (or remembers) about it being bad and then you can judge on his response whether he's ready to understand cravings etc...
or whether he just asked why folks smoke to stop you talking about the last time you 3-putted & got 0.1 back
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Snelly
Guest
My kids have asked me the same question, especially as they watched their Grandmother die of lung cancer and can remember it pretty well. They asked questions at the time including why would anyone smoke, and I gave answers similar to those in this thread around addiction, habit, enjoyment and so on. My wife answered in a similar fashion too.
From this, and with a bit of independent thought, they have formed their own view of why people smoke - "because they are absolutely stupid." A quote from my 9 year old daughter this morning (I asked her when I read this thread) who is particularly opinionated on this subject. Not sure why, apart from the obvious link with her Grandma's death, but she gets fairly vexed....
It is hard for me to disagree with her view on this really. Even in moderation, it costs a lot, makes you smell pretty unpleasant, affects your ability to exercise and is directly linked to diseases that kill you. Choosing to pay through the nose to make you stink, be unfit and die faster is certainly not that clever and "absolutely stupid" is probably not an unreasonable description.
From this, and with a bit of independent thought, they have formed their own view of why people smoke - "because they are absolutely stupid." A quote from my 9 year old daughter this morning (I asked her when I read this thread) who is particularly opinionated on this subject. Not sure why, apart from the obvious link with her Grandma's death, but she gets fairly vexed....
It is hard for me to disagree with her view on this really. Even in moderation, it costs a lot, makes you smell pretty unpleasant, affects your ability to exercise and is directly linked to diseases that kill you. Choosing to pay through the nose to make you stink, be unfit and die faster is certainly not that clever and "absolutely stupid" is probably not an unreasonable description.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
well son - people smoke for the same reason you eat sweets. You like them; you feel good; they change the way you feel. Wanna feel good - eats sweets.
Jacko_G
Blackballed
An interesting debate, should smokers pay more towards their NHS treatments if smoking related?
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
Drink strains the NHS more.
also fat people... more tax on pies!!!!
also fat people... more tax on pies!!!!
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
I'm sure they will argue that have paid more than their fair share in tax that directly goes to fund the NHS. Also if you do that then you will end up with 2 options, things that you have basically brought on yourself and things that are no fault of your own. As it doesn't seem fair to just do it for smokers.
