Parmo
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Who Leaves Clubs behind? Have you seen ClubAlert !!
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TonyN
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I dont log on for one day and look what happens.
ChrisMc, Colinr. Its as simple as this. The forum actually costs money to run by way of paying for somewhere to host. GM very kindly let us use it for free and I expect the fees are funded by the Galvin green ads above and to the side. It's priniciple. Why should they have to pay for ads when other could be geting them for free. We wouldn't want them pulling out I I don't think Gm would either. Where would the funds come from? GM themselves or us? This forum looks after it's self. I know mike checks in from time to time to make sure were all playing nicely. And I am pretty sure we only save him the job of taking out the rubbish. Why should he have to he has enough to do already to keep us happy (does a great job too along with the team). I think it's great the way we all pull together to keep the forum as focused as possible. We have had our fair share of spammers and idiots and we got rid of them. They waste too much space. Literally. 99% of the regular/long standing members know what this forum is about and we shall do our upmost to ensure it stays how it was intended. It's for 'the greater good'
ChrisMc, Colinr. Its as simple as this. The forum actually costs money to run by way of paying for somewhere to host. GM very kindly let us use it for free and I expect the fees are funded by the Galvin green ads above and to the side. It's priniciple. Why should they have to pay for ads when other could be geting them for free. We wouldn't want them pulling out I I don't think Gm would either. Where would the funds come from? GM themselves or us? This forum looks after it's self. I know mike checks in from time to time to make sure were all playing nicely. And I am pretty sure we only save him the job of taking out the rubbish. Why should he have to he has enough to do already to keep us happy (does a great job too along with the team). I think it's great the way we all pull together to keep the forum as focused as possible. We have had our fair share of spammers and idiots and we got rid of them. They waste too much space. Literally. 99% of the regular/long standing members know what this forum is about and we shall do our upmost to ensure it stays how it was intended. It's for 'the greater good'
haplesshacker
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Been a good read though!
Herbie
Tour Winner
I wasnt as offended by the original post as much as others, I thought the question was interesting enough to warrent a response, I didnt visit the site and Im not interested in any product related but I do think some of the responses were a bit ott.
If I was a misguided salesman found myself in a clubhouse and tried a reasonable pitch and received some of the responses I have read here, I think the idea of gentlemanly conduct would go right out of the window.
No one deserves abuse, especially when it comes from people who promote product after product in a jovial exchange between members then condem spam???????
If there is a ruling or agreement that prevents spam then thats fine but there is no need for abuse to the extent Ive seen on here.
Those who say its like a vertual clubhouse are close to the truth, in real clubhouses you can witness the gathering of the quiet polite ones in little groups, later followed by the group making its voice known usually following a leader(often after a few beers) followed by the symbolic cap doffing and snuggling with key figures, then eventually setting a tone after establishing what they can get away with,or perceived status of superiority.
Telling someone to F off bluntly for promoting an idea on here is offensive.
If you talk between members about golf kit you are doing the job of business advertising and promo without finantial reward but you wouldnt like someone telling you to F off for it.
moderator should do more to control them ,yes!
members should politely advise them not to do it or simply ignore them.
Blunt abuse is just blunt abuse and there is no excuse for that in my book, but when alliances have been drawn, the blunt abuse will be unfortunately accepted.
Sorry to put this gents but its true.
If I was a misguided salesman found myself in a clubhouse and tried a reasonable pitch and received some of the responses I have read here, I think the idea of gentlemanly conduct would go right out of the window.
No one deserves abuse, especially when it comes from people who promote product after product in a jovial exchange between members then condem spam???????
If there is a ruling or agreement that prevents spam then thats fine but there is no need for abuse to the extent Ive seen on here.
Those who say its like a vertual clubhouse are close to the truth, in real clubhouses you can witness the gathering of the quiet polite ones in little groups, later followed by the group making its voice known usually following a leader(often after a few beers) followed by the symbolic cap doffing and snuggling with key figures, then eventually setting a tone after establishing what they can get away with,or perceived status of superiority.
Telling someone to F off bluntly for promoting an idea on here is offensive.
If you talk between members about golf kit you are doing the job of business advertising and promo without finantial reward but you wouldnt like someone telling you to F off for it.
moderator should do more to control them ,yes!
members should politely advise them not to do it or simply ignore them.
Blunt abuse is just blunt abuse and there is no excuse for that in my book, but when alliances have been drawn, the blunt abuse will be unfortunately accepted.
Sorry to put this gents but its true.
big_russ
Challenge Tour Pro
An interesting point made by colinr/chrismc or maybe even someone else was that if you know it is going to be a spam post then don't read it. This is a point that could also be made with regard to replies to the spam OP.
If you feel so offended by what are in my opinion funny, witty and more often than not sarcastic put downs then you only have yourself to blame if you read them.(It would be nice to refrain from the $£%& offs. Ladies and youngsters do use the forum).
My opinion is that if you come on hear touting your wares then you are classed as fair game and have no come back if you get offended.
Sales and advertising costs money and those that do pay their dues should not have to subsidise others who try to get a free ride.
How does the old saying go? "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"
If you feel so offended by what are in my opinion funny, witty and more often than not sarcastic put downs then you only have yourself to blame if you read them.(It would be nice to refrain from the $£%& offs. Ladies and youngsters do use the forum).
My opinion is that if you come on hear touting your wares then you are classed as fair game and have no come back if you get offended.
Sales and advertising costs money and those that do pay their dues should not have to subsidise others who try to get a free ride.
How does the old saying go? "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"
thomas1981
Club Champion
As someone whose not that long joined the forum and golf i've got to disagree. I've asked for some advice on a couple of threads and got nothing but great advice even though these guys have probably answered the same questions a hundred times over the last couple of years.
As for 'tolerating' new comers i've felt very welcome and even invited out for a game ,doesn't sound very 'cliquey' to me.
As for the put downs the spammers get i wouldn't say they're offensive or rude but rather witty.
But you are welcome to your own opinion and hope you still enjoy the forum.
Macster
Journeyman Pro
"If you (ChrisMC) feel that you have been ostricised by our little community, then who really caused that?"
Ostracised ?? Nah hell its only the t'internet ya know, none of us really exist !
I was merely offering a view from where I am, quite clearly a lot of you think differently.
There are a lot of Topics and indeed repies in topics that I dont read, so to me, 'not clicking' on a topic like the OP left just isnt a problem for me.
Clearly others think differently.
Obviously a lot of you treat this as something personal, and I quote, 'our little community', but its an internet forum, its open to the big wide world, and unless GM decide to make it a subscription service or something, people are free to make this kind of post if they want.
And you are free to NOT read it if you dont want.
As I said, I just find it a bit childish to chastise a poster for invading your 'little community' without first earning your respect and friendship.
Thats what the real world is for.
I have used a Mountain Biking forum for years, and yes there are always sarcastic & witty answers on there, or even heavily debated topics, but not as quickly roasted as some of you guys seem to be keen to do.
Anyway, we're going over old ground, I'll shut up now.
:-/
Ostracised ?? Nah hell its only the t'internet ya know, none of us really exist !
I was merely offering a view from where I am, quite clearly a lot of you think differently.
There are a lot of Topics and indeed repies in topics that I dont read, so to me, 'not clicking' on a topic like the OP left just isnt a problem for me.
Clearly others think differently.
Obviously a lot of you treat this as something personal, and I quote, 'our little community', but its an internet forum, its open to the big wide world, and unless GM decide to make it a subscription service or something, people are free to make this kind of post if they want.
And you are free to NOT read it if you dont want.
As I said, I just find it a bit childish to chastise a poster for invading your 'little community' without first earning your respect and friendship.
Thats what the real world is for.
I have used a Mountain Biking forum for years, and yes there are always sarcastic & witty answers on there, or even heavily debated topics, but not as quickly roasted as some of you guys seem to be keen to do.
Anyway, we're going over old ground, I'll shut up now.
:-/
RGuk
Tour Winner
I like this post (
! )The reality i.m.o. is that the old-standing regulars are ALL rather good chaps. The reason why they/we/I am here is because we are NOT clique-y. If we were clique-y we'd have our regular 4 balls and be boring weekend players. Truth is, for whatever reason we/I are quite outgoing and keen to share our experiences (good/bad/silly) with other like-minded folk.
Interestingly (having met a good few) what you meet on the course/at the club is a type of person that is respectful, proud of the game and welcoming to all newcomers. The heavy-handed approach with spammers is (I believe) a reaction to exactly the sort of wally that now joins golf clubs and starts to take liberties. We/I welcome all new players, from all social backgrounds etc. but also value the tradition and decency of good clubs. Placid, intelligent and outgoing, I'm sure any of us would take an equal attitude to a newcomer that arrives at the club and has no idea of how to behave?
haplesshacker
Money List Winner
ChrisMC
Forget forum decorum, it is an open forum for anyone to join, and discuss through the 3 forums here, pretty much anything they wish to discuss. I agree with you on that.
But sales is sales. And the OP couldn't sell for toffee, end of. I don't want to know which club he belongs to, or what clubs he plays with, it's just a sales ploy to gain folks trust. So I do disagree with the comments about being part of the community, because the OP isn't here for that.
My attempt at the OPs original post.
Good afternoon. My name is James and I've been involved in developing this idea about making sure that you don't leave a club behind on the course.
After speaking to a few folks, they suggested that I should ask your opinion on this idea, as they said this was quite an active and friendly forum.
The product is not for sale yet as it is still undergoing trials, and I'm unsure of what the price will be, but I suspect that it would retail at around £100.
Link to my website below for more details. The site is clean if you're worried about virus's.
What are your thoughts please?
Best regards
James
Okay so it's not perfect, but it's a start. For all we know the statements about the forum in my OP above, could be a lie. But who's going to know!
Surely this is better than the balls up from the OP?
Forget forum decorum, it is an open forum for anyone to join, and discuss through the 3 forums here, pretty much anything they wish to discuss. I agree with you on that.
But sales is sales. And the OP couldn't sell for toffee, end of. I don't want to know which club he belongs to, or what clubs he plays with, it's just a sales ploy to gain folks trust. So I do disagree with the comments about being part of the community, because the OP isn't here for that.
My attempt at the OPs original post.
Good afternoon. My name is James and I've been involved in developing this idea about making sure that you don't leave a club behind on the course.
After speaking to a few folks, they suggested that I should ask your opinion on this idea, as they said this was quite an active and friendly forum.
The product is not for sale yet as it is still undergoing trials, and I'm unsure of what the price will be, but I suspect that it would retail at around £100.
Link to my website below for more details. The site is clean if you're worried about virus's.
What are your thoughts please?
Best regards
James
Okay so it's not perfect, but it's a start. For all we know the statements about the forum in my OP above, could be a lie. But who's going to know!
Surely this is better than the balls up from the OP?
medwayjon
Tour Winner
I am probably one of the abusers by politely suggesting the OP should F.O
The reason I am so anti this is because we lay out around £15k p.a on advertising, we then get mickey-mouse home traders (those who dont pay tax, vat etc) buying similar cars to ours and sticking them on our road for sale with a sign in the windows for £500 cheaper than our cars.
They pay no advertising expenses and park there so punters will see their cars off the back of the advertising that has drawn them to our premises in the first place. These guys are parasites in my eyes and I was delighted when one got busted big-time for illegaly trading from the roadside (illegal in my area), having untaxed and ininsured cars on the road, tax & vat avoidance and benefit fraud. Served him right.
The same applies here in my eyes. GM provide a medium for us to communicate, companies pay £££'s to advertise on here and then you get some chancer hijacking the forum for a bit of free advertising off the back of somebody elses (GM) efforts.
I wholeheartedly believe that it is 100% wrong for people to do this, people who do this are parasites in my eyes and deserve a bit of stick, albeit maybee in a more polite manner than I delivered.
It just infuriates me to see it going on.
The reason I am so anti this is because we lay out around £15k p.a on advertising, we then get mickey-mouse home traders (those who dont pay tax, vat etc) buying similar cars to ours and sticking them on our road for sale with a sign in the windows for £500 cheaper than our cars.
They pay no advertising expenses and park there so punters will see their cars off the back of the advertising that has drawn them to our premises in the first place. These guys are parasites in my eyes and I was delighted when one got busted big-time for illegaly trading from the roadside (illegal in my area), having untaxed and ininsured cars on the road, tax & vat avoidance and benefit fraud. Served him right.
The same applies here in my eyes. GM provide a medium for us to communicate, companies pay £££'s to advertise on here and then you get some chancer hijacking the forum for a bit of free advertising off the back of somebody elses (GM) efforts.
I wholeheartedly believe that it is 100% wrong for people to do this, people who do this are parasites in my eyes and deserve a bit of stick, albeit maybee in a more polite manner than I delivered.
It just infuriates me to see it going on.
Cernunnos
Journeyman Pro
Re: Who Leaves Clubs behind? Have you seen ClubAlert !!
speach....rofl
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