When Will People learn to shout - FORE.

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Played at Upchurch River Valley Golf Course yesterday in a Penfold league match for our club. First time ever played and there and it will be the last for 2 reasons.

1. it’s the single most dangerous course I've ever played on meaning I got smacked with a ball
2. the worst lay out I’ve ever seen, should have kept it as a farmer’s field, with the worst greens you could play on.

But my rant is more on point 1. There were 6 holes on the front 9 alone where you had to aim for marker posts as there drives were all blind and you had to hope you heard a bell before teeing off. Bell would be a good idea if the holes adjacent had different sounding ones.

Anyway to my point there was not a shot you could play where you could see the end result, I don't mind blind shots but 6 in 9 holes where those fairways cross each other is imo dangerous, there were balls flying everywhere and I managed to take one square in the back with not a shout of Fore anywhere. Another of our team in the group in front was also hit on a different hole.

Shouldn't people be instructed in the etiquette of when to shout instead of the excuse I was given instead of an apology, The guy that hit me simply said "I didn't see where it went". Saw red at this point and explained un-pleasantries.

But not only is it happening at club level but Webb Simpson the other day sent one hurtling towards a grandstand with no shout at all just a point of an arm!

Anyway that’s my Rant over really...


Yours sincerely bruised and annoyed in Kent

 

[bladeplayer]

Lost the cool about a close call myself yesterday .. whizzed onto our fairway , few feet from the head ..

I actualy went over to have a word , they guys origionaly thought i was joking because having a word like i was doing would kinda be out of charachter for me , one of the other lads in our group explained how close it was , the smiles departed .. i dont mind balls hopping & rolling up , this one went flying bye , head height .. wasnt impresed ..

 

[bobmac]

[h=2]When Will People learn to shout - FORE
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The day before they learn to repair pitch marks, replace divots, rake bunkers and the day after they learn to let people through

 

[arnieboy]

Similar incident - four of us on the green putting out. Ball from an adjacent fairway came sailing over the bushes and landed just beyond us on the green. We have quite a few dormy house visitors who may not know the layout so they could be forgiven but coming around the corner smirking was a long standing member of the club who should have known better. Prat.

 

[woody69]

If someone shouts "FORE RIIIIIIIIIGHT" and you still get hit, is that alright?

 

[Fader]

If someone shouts "FORE RIIIIIIIIIGHT" and you still get hit, is that alright?

Of course it is, it'll still bloody hurt. But you would be forwarned and able to brace/protect yourself somehow, the whole reason for the shout is to warn others and give them chance to at least brace somehow.

No shout, no warning means first thing you know is when your in a heap on the floor. If the guy had shouted id' have taken cover behind my trolley and not been hit.

 

[drutz]

If someone shouts "FORE RIIIIIIIIIGHT" and you still get hit, is that alright?

To be honest I would say yes, if they had only shouted fore I would say it is fine. If they have shouted fore they cannot help if you still get hit they are just trying to make people aware a ball is heading offline/blindly on the course.

 

[woody69]

Of course it is, it'll still bloody hurt. But you would be forwarned and able to brace/protect yourself somehow, the whole reason for the shout is to war others and give them chance to at least brace somehow.

No shout, no warning means first thing you know is when your in a heap on the floor. If the guy had shouted id' have taken cover behind my trolley and not been hit.

I hear what you are saying. Was a genuine question and wasn't being factious. I will always shout and agree with you wholeheartedly

 

[bladeplayer]

If someone shouts "FORE RIIIIIIIIIGHT" and you still get hit, is that alright?

You get the chance to cover up tho , could be the difference between been hit full in the head or on the arm or back ,, doesnt make it alright per say but stray shots is something you have to accept on a course , at least if the guy shouts he is giving everyone a chance to protect themselves

 

[Porno]

I actually hit someone on the head yesterday from 250yds , big fore shout from my 4 ball as well as the rest of my society as it was the 1st tee. Boom right on the noggin.

Fella was sound about it.

 

[need_my_wedge]

one of my friends was hit full on back of the head the other week. We were playing in a pro-am, last group out. Some members decided to jump out after and were chasing up behind us. Our par 5 fifth is up over a hill and there is a bell to notify that the guys in front have played their second and moved on. We were over the top and short of the bell with the group in front on the green. Standing talking to my friend whilst we were waiting, when "thunk" ball comes over on the fly, hits him smack in the back of the head, poleaxed him. I started shouting for fear of further balls coming over whilst trying to make sure he was OK. I ran back up the fairway to have words...... trying to understand why they were chasing the pro-am, and why they hadn't waited for the bell (they saw us playing up the hole as they were coming down the 4th.One of them came over to apologize to my friend, who was now sitting up. Friend not happy....decides to try and play on after 5 or 10 minutes waiting, not disrupted the pro or anyone's game at all..... He stands up, lines up and promptly smashes his ball left over the trees and gone........with his 7 iron helicoptering down the middle of the fairway. At this point friend turns to go after the bloke who'd just apologized and required restraining. We carried on but all of us were completely off from that point, all 4 of us lost our drives left into the trees on the next hole, just messed us up completely.

Have since found out that the chap who came to apologize wasn't even the one who hit the ball, the person in question didn't even have the balls, let alone manners to come and apologize, even letting his mate almost take a beating for it.......

Yesterday, played at The Bedfordshire, was getting ready to putt out on one green when a ball pitched about a yard to my left on the green and rolled on. It had come from an adjoining fairway going in the opposite direction. No shout of "fore". Three players walking along, one walks up to the green, no apology, no words at all, half waves a single hand......not sure if that was supposed to be a greeting or a half apology but bad manners all round.

It really does seem that the manner of calling "fore" is severely lacking in many places these days, something does need to be done about it, and it should start with the pro's leading by example. After Rory hit that young lad at The Open, there was a a big, audible change in the calling of "fore" for the rest of that tournament, but sadly, it seems to have died down again now. How do we get it heard again......?

 

[JustOne]

It's only a matter of time until crash helmets become mandatory

Nothing in the rules stopping you from wearing one right now if you're that worried.

 

[Fader]

We had so many ball whizzing about around us yesterday i'm surprised not more people get seriously injured at Upchurch.

So many cross overs and blind shots without bells, there were 4 bells on the course all on front nine, but the back nine was even more dangerous.

Was standing on 10th tee waiting to tee off , when ball flies through the 4 of us playing and lands other side of 9th green, guy walked over passed us not even acknowledging his wayward shot or lack of shout, strolls over to the otherside of the green where our final group were now putting out picks up his ball and just said I played a provisional so i'll get your way.... Where was the shout!!!!

 

[drutz]

Had a strange one yesterday, was on the practise range which runs alongside the 15th at my club abliet seperated by 30 yds and a huge sway of tall trees. I am in the lining my shot up for the middle of the range look at my target, back to ball, to the target, back to my ball swing and hit it. Look up and see a guy in the middle of the range taking a shot he had smashed about 60 yds wide from the 15th. I will admit to not shouting fore as his mate appears from the trees and runs onto the range and takes his shot as well. I was speechless at first of all two very bad shots but more than the the stupidity of running onto the range to take a shot.

 

[Carbon]

Went for 9 this morning and the couple infront of us ( an older couple ) were waiting to tee, the bloke waited untill the 2 infront of him were clear but then promptly hit the ball low and hard straight towards a guy strimming the trees about 15m left of the 1st fairway dont know how he missed him really! no shout or anything, bloke then looked at me like it was my fault!

 

[the hammer]

society game at karsten lakes saturday, playing down the 10th, somebody teeing off the 8th,very very close to my mate. no shout, no apology, and got the impression it was our fault for being in their way.

 

[ScienceBoy]

I admit I should have shouted fore yesterday but didn't.

From the tee I saw the guys walk to the next tee, put their bags down. I took this as a cue to tee off on a 294 yard par 4, about 270 carry to the green from the tee.

I hit a slight fade that got up into the wind and started heading away from the fairway towards the green. I then realised they had actually walked back to putt but guessed I would not reach the green and I could now see them putting having run off the tee to follow the ball flight. I decided not to shout as it probably would not reach them and they were in the middle of putting, as where the people on a green right next to me.

Walked up to the hole in a sheepish way ready to apologise for landing a ball near them and putting them off, they pointed behind the green! I had hit just to the left of the green and ended up just over the back by 5-10 yards! Boy did I apologise for not shouting fore!

 

[SaintHacker]

A couple of years ago I hit someone in the next booth on the range! Somehow I got right under the ball, which went up almost vertically, hit the lip of the roof and came back down hitting the poor bugger right on the bridge of the nose. Luckily he was fine about it, if a little stunned. I was mortified. Didn't have time to shout fore...

 

[ScienceBoy]

A couple of years ago I hit someone in the next booth on the range! Somehow I got right under the ball, which went up almost vertically, hit the lip of the roof and came back down hitting the poor bugger right on the bridge of the nose. Luckily he was fine about it, if a little stunned. I was mortified. Didn't have time to shout fore...

Ouch! I saw a case of a "nearly" with this at the range I go to. One guy rattled four in a row round the bay and back out into the passage behind the bays! How he did that I will never know!

 

[HotDogAssassin]

I always shout Fore when a shot goes wayward. But I'm starting to question the real point of it. When you're out the open, your ability to determine the direction that the shout has come from and more importantly the ball flight is limited in the time available. Plus, what's the first thing you do when you hear a shout? I tend to look to the sky in the rough area that I'm guessing is correct, which means my face and my eyes are unprotected. If I don't know it's coming I'd more than likely be looking downwards. The chances of a ball actually hitting you in a wide open space must be fairly limited.