Ire appear to be punching above its weight to the casual observer comp to Scotland. certainly appear to have more guys having results once turning pro..
What Now for Scottish Golf?
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Ire appear to be punching above its weight to the casual observer comp to Scotland. certainly appear to have more guys having results once turning pro..
You don't think think success inspires people to take up a sport? Success of a local doesn't inspire local golfers to play more, whatever their level?
Jacko_G
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Having done a bit more "research" by asking a friend in the "know" I understand that is was your home golf union that has caused the latest storm.
Personally I think it is a bitter childish rant that makes the already beleaguered organisation look even more ridiculous. The club golfer has a right to question why they fund elite golfers and get nothing back from their "investment" or "contribution".
FairwayDodger
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What do you mean by my "home golf union"?
I agree about questioning how resources are used but I don't agree that the club golfer gets nothing.
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Jacko_G
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Lothians are the Union that the rant is referring to I understand.
I'm meaning at top level. Rory inspiring kids in N.Ireland, Chris Paisley inspiring people in my county following his recent win. You don't think that happens?
To get to that level most go through the amateur ranks and get helped by their counties or national bodies.
Jacko_G
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Seve inspired me, he's not SGU funded!
FairwayDodger
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Oh right, that's nothing to do with me! Interestingly, I heard it was more down your way....
Probably both!
once he was pro no doubt he inspired a fair few and still does today.. can't think of too many young Scottish golfers tearing it up that have turned pro in the last few years.
Ireland is something we should be looking at sim sized population same amount of golfers, but far more success as far as pros go.
stevek1969
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26 % on elite golfers so what happens to the other 74%, what does the average hacker like myself get out of it in my eyes nowt. Ireland have a GUI card which from my knowledge of booking times they get a decent discount on courses and not just the top ones either.
A good thing ive seen from Ireland is national club comps for handicap golfers between certain ranges we have nowt like that here
A good thing ive seen from Ireland is national club comps for handicap golfers between certain ranges we have nowt like that here
Jacko_G
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Oh right, that's nothing to do with me! Interestingly, I heard it was more down your way....
I got that info from someone in Renfrewshire. I can't see this as being anything other than a childish rant. I'm not sure where the sexism card comes from. If she has evidence to support this rant it should be put on the table and the offenders named and shamed and taken to task, there is no place for that within the game at any level.
I am not a fan (as you know!) but this circus of an organisation really don't help themselves.
patricks148;18 Ireland is something we should be looking at sim sized population same amount of golfers said:
FairwayDodger
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Believe it or not I'm not here just to defend SG, clearly big changes are required, but I think this attitude is problematic. You get lots from them from handicapping to discounts, support for your club, efforts to promote and develop the game and, yes, championships. I agree they could probably do better on the latter front but have to find the right niche to pitch it at. Surely nobody would argue against them staging national scratch championships but what would you like to see for handicap golf that wouldn't just be a direct competitor for club opens etc?
I'm sure this is similar to what I was referring to earlier, it just seems to me a woman making a big noise and using the sexism card, bit like certain groups using the racist card at a whim.
stevek1969
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karen i no you aren't defending them and if the CEO says theres been comments made she should out them ive no time for sexist nonsense. A few years ago they ran a Texas Scramble comp with winners from your home club going to a selected venue then the winning teams got a place in the Pro - Am at The Challenge tour event at Spey Valley.
The GUI run 2 comps the Jimmy Bruen Shield which is inter club comps minimum 5 handicap and max per pair is 15 and 5 pairs per team, they also run one with a higher handicap limit from what i no its very competitive .
Maybe something like that would be good to get clubs involved
FairwayDodger
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They took over running the old SLGA Medals Finals. The best performer in a club's medals the previous year (both in bronze and silver divisions) gets put forward into one of four regional finals and so many from each then qualify for the grand final at the end of the year. I don't think there's similar for men but does that sound like something that would be good?
stevek1969
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I'm not to sure ,i know theres one at Leven for all the club Champs but not sure if run by the SGU . Ireland seems to promote sport in general a lot more than Scotland does maybe thats why there reaping the benefits of it and not just golf.
Doon frae Troon
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Out of interest, can you name four of your current County Golf team who may be used for inspiration.
JT77
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We have a good level of competition golf here, not all just for scratch guys, Steve is right, we have bruen, pierce Purcell for higher boys, we have team comps for over 18s too, as well things like ulster cup, 10 men, Barton’s shield, senior cup, junior cup, b&d and holt shield. Not all gui but I know that the difference between here and North east England is huge as there it was all scratch teams, if Scotland is like that then it maybe needs a refresh.