What hc do you consider to be a good player?

18 or less.

At this point you have skills and know how to manage your game around a course, will get a couple of pars a round and will also get the odd birdie. That's good going in my book.
 
I feel that people with single figure handicaps would be classed as "good" golfers given how hard this game is. Single figures is my target
 
18 or less.

At this point you have skills and know how to manage your game around a course, will get a couple of pars a round and will also get the odd birdie. That's good going in my book.

Like as they say. I think it's indicative of why the game is struggling if the general opinion is that you need to be single figures to be 'good'. As who would want to take up a game in which it will take a lot of time and effort just to be 'good'. And indeed many will never get there.

Hey, come and try golf. Yes you may never reach the standard of what your peers would class as just 'good' but don't let that put you off. It's great fun. Sorry, what's that, you've decided to sod that for a game of soldiers and gone off to play a quick fun game of football instead?? Why? :mad:
 
Seen these threads before and it's just a bun fight. Anyone 10 and above that thinks that they're half decent needs to wake up and smell the coffee, dreamers.

Decent for me is Cat 1 and leaning towards 2 or lower is good.

When a Cat 1 guy is talking golf he's trolling but when a 12 handicapper is dishing out a lesson that's not? Hilarious :rofl:
 
Like as they say. I think it's indicative of why the game is struggling if the general opinion is that you need to be single figures to be 'good'. As who would want to take up a game in which it will take a lot of time and effort just to be 'good'. And indeed many will never get there.

Hey, come and try golf. Yes you may never reach the standard of what your peers would class as just 'good' but don't let that put you off. It's great fun. Sorry, what's that, you've decided to sod that for a game of soldiers and gone off to play a quick fun game of football instead?? Why? :mad:

Subscribed. It's a shame this attitude persists, I've seen it demotivating players in the kids game and that's unforgivable. I've had numerous conversations with mates in the past year in the 12-23 cap' range who feel demotivated and I'm quick to remind them they really can play.
 
As soon as you get to 17. Once you have a hole you don't get a shot on you need to be good enough to make pars
 
I'd say 12 & below is a good golfer - less than a shot a hole, able to hit good shots, but makes the odd costly mistake as well.
I feel it's attainable if you have either the skill or dedication - but both are required to get lower.
 
There is good, very good, excellent and exceptional. For me, too many people are putting excellent players in the good category. I guess it is a genuine judgement / matter of opinion. In my opinion I would agree with the OP that anyone 12 or below is a good player. Anyone below a shot a hole is a decent player but to be good you have to be more consistent. I am neither good nor decent but I do enjoy myself, buy my round and I play quickly so hopefully I will receive no hate mail :)
 
For me a good golfer is 4 and under. Scratch and less would be excellent.

One negative of the Handicap system is it has allowed us all to win at some point or another, winning is associated with being the best and that is what causes the confusion.
 
Hey, come and try golf. Yes you may never reach the standard of what your peers would class as just 'good' but don't let that put you off. It's great fun. Sorry, what's that, you've decided to sod that for a game of soldiers and gone off to play a quick fun game of football instead?? Why? :mad:

^^^^

This exactly. Couldn't agree more.

PG Wodehouse's golf stories are great for lambasting this rather rarefied and esoteric attitude, where he talks about 'cracks' and 'pros' being dour, grim, unhappily dark and brooding types who derive little or no 'pleasure' from the game. :D
 
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One negative of the Handicap system is it has allowed us all to win at some point or another, winning is associated with being the best and that is what causes the confusion.

very true, you would not be considered a fast runner if you raced Usain Bolt over 100 meters, but you got a 99 yard head start:rofl:
 
Like as they say. I think it's indicative of why the game is struggling if the general opinion is that you need to be single figures to be 'good'. As who would want to take up a game in which it will take a lot of time and effort just to be 'good'. And indeed many will never get there.

Hey, come and try golf. Yes you may never reach the standard of what your peers would class as just 'good' but don't let that put you off. It's great fun. Sorry, what's that, you've decided to sod that for a game of soldiers and gone off to play a quick fun game of football instead?? Why? :mad:

You mention football in this, I played football for years before taking up golf. The main difference in my opinion is footballers seem to know their own levels. Not all but most.

They can be good players in the Central Scottish AFS Division 2, but that does not make them a good football players. Being Scottish and a sportsman means your not any good for starters (murray aside). Golfers tend not to have the ability to process or admit that.

Who cares what handicap people are, I don't. Play the game and enjoy it, if folk don't want to do things because other people won't think they are any good, then there won't be much left for them to do.
 
3 or better is very good.
Single figures is good.
18 and under, you can play golf.
18-24 - you are learning.
24+ for men - I am afraid you are a bit rubbish.
 
3 or better is very good.
Single figures is good.
18 and under, you can play golf.
18-24 - you are learning.
24+ for men - I am afraid you are a bit rubbish.

I expected you to be more ruthless than that, but I think that's fair 👍🏌
 
Following on from a post in the why hasn't the average handicap fell thread.

It says something like, if you're not cat 1, 6 tops, then you're just a chomper getting in the way. The fella got some stick for his comments (rightly so) and even threatened with mod action (maybe a little ott in isolation?)

Before I go on, im 39. Been playing for 2.5 years and off 21. So no snobbery here.

However, it got me thinking as to what id consider a good players handicap is. Something in your head, that makes you think, yeah he/she can play a bit. So from the ages of 16-60 in good average health.

Also im not saying anything above this is rubbish, or shouldnt be anywhere near a course, far from it.

Im going 12. No science to it, just a good solid number.

What say you?

In the general scheme of all the people who try and have a go at hitting a ball, I would say that getting to 9 handicap puts someone in the "good player" bracket.

Again no science, and not saying that players above that are not reasonable players, but single figures feels like a milestone and a good achievement.
 
For me:
Scratch / low pluses: excellent.
Cat 1: very good
Single figures: good
10-18: meh
18 and up: pants

I'm off 11 at the moment and trying to get from meh to good.
 
All about personal perceptions of standards I guess

When I do a performance review and someone believes they have an 'excellent' attendance record becasue they've only been off once or twice in a year! ppffft nae chance. What does that say to the guys with 100% attendance and additional unpaid shifts worked etc.
The odd days absence or two in a year and your attendance is simply 'acceptable'

Golf is a brilliant game regardless of where I am in relation to the good players but I can't devalue their standard & achievements by telling average golfers they're 'good' at golf just to make them feel a wee bit better

Not being 'good' doesn't stick the rest of us into being 'bad' players, there's plenty increments between good & bad
 
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