What are standard lies for irons?

[slicer79]

When a set of clubs are advertised as standard length and lie, what exactly are standard lies equal to? Tried goggle but didn't get a definate answer. Can it vary depending on manufacturer?

I know the lie on my irons are as follows:

4. 59
5. 60
6 61
7. 62
8. 63
9. 64
Pw. 64

How are they set up in relation to standard?

 

[chris661]

Yes it varies between manufactures as well as loft and length.

 

[slicer79]

Ok thanks. It makes it all the more confusing so when looking up 2nd hand sets on eBay

2 deg upright etc means nothing so unless you know first what the manufacturer has set as standard.

Can the lie be adjusted on all irons by a local pro?

 

[chris661]

Can the lie be adjusted on all irons by a local pro?

Certainly on forged irons, although I think 4 degrees might be the max for some to move them. Cast irons like ping can be altered although I personally would send them back to ping who do it free (I think) maybe somebody could confirm this.

 

[duncan mackie]

I think you will find that the relationship between length and lie is pretty standard; loft is more relevant to launch angles and certain designs that influence this through design are often adjusted - but it's irrelevant to set up.

I would expect any manufacturers 'standard' length and lie clubs to basically 'sit the same' in the hands of the same player, and an there's at least as much scope for differences in dynamic lie angles (the ones you get at impact rather than the ones you think you have at address) through club weight distribution, shafts and even grip changes (the rubber ones not your hands!).

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Varies from make and model. Some like TM and Wilson have notoriously strong lofts whereas Mizuno have what you may consider a more conventional core set of lofts

 

[HughJars]

Varies from make and model. Some like TM and Wilson have notoriously strong lofts whereas Mizuno have what you may consider a more conventional core set of lofts

Not the case, PW on a Mizuno 800HD is 44°, less than anything TM, Ping or Titleist shove out, and same as Callaway's strongest iron set, and just weaker than Wilson(42.5°) or Cobra's (43.5°) strongest irons.

 

[Foxholer]

Varies from make and model. Some like TM and Wilson have notoriously strong lofts whereas Mizuno have what you may consider a more conventional core set of lofts

It's Lie being discussed about here Homer. /Different length has much more influence on need to change lie than loft does.

But it can certainly can vary. Here's a link to TM specs. http://taylormadegolf.com/TaylorMad...tart=4&cgid=taylormade-irons-allCurrentModels

 

[MGL]

The specs you've listed are pretty close to what I would class as a 'standard' although as pointed out there is no standard. There is some progression, and hence some consistency of gaps, throughout the set as well. Cast clubs are much harder to bend than forged which are easy as long as they are protected in the bending vice to prevent marring on the hosel.

Not many people will bend cast clubs though due to the probability of breakage.

And lie angles have to be fitted dynamically to be of any accuracy otherwise there is no point.