Westwood - not again?

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I am very disappointed for Robert. I met him and played golf with him in the US some years ago and he is a very nice guy, very down to earth, easy company and hits a very fine ball too.

Just shows the effect of pressure, and a bit of bad luck thrown in too. I hope he wins something soon to exorcise these demons.
 
And then there were two!! Probably for the best that Garrigus has dropped out - don't think he kecks or strides could hold much more water!!! Think Huggies should sign him up for their new adult range!!!

325 yards with a three wood right behind the only tree on the right side of the fairway was pretty unlucky though.
 
Finally I can go to bed!! Well done Westy - all the best for next week.
 
Well that looked like it was the only way westwood was going to win in the states this year he was tearing the back 9 apart all week then on sunday he struggles, the back 9 on sunday is where the majors are won just looks like he cant get over the line unless it is handed to him.
Mike
 
Well that looked like it was the only way westwood was going to win in the states this year he was tearing the back 9 apart all week then on sunday he struggles, the back 9 on sunday is where the majors are won just looks like he cant get over the line unless it is handed to him.
Mike

I agree, but I think being gifted that playoff and coming through it pretty strongly (and having to make some pressure shots) will give him no end of confidence and boost for Pebble Beach this weekend. I think (hope) you'll see a different Westy who might not even crumble on Sunday!
 
Just shows you if you put your self there often enough you will get one well done westy, lets hope this makes the next one easier.

He has played so well this year he really deserved it lets see what happens if he gets in contention next week (although I dont see Pebble Beach as a westwood course) But come on Westwood.
 
This forum sets high standards!! I wouldn't class 68 on a Sunday as choking.

Now, 3 shot lead with one to play and having a meltdown........as the saying goes (and the pictures proved) his arse really did fall out!!! :o :D
 
just looks like he cant get over the line unless it is handed to him.

I won't say it was handed too him .... Westwood was three shots off the lead going into the last round. He's played his game and was in the right place when Robert Garrigus imploded on the last hole.

As they say ‘you’ve got to be in it to win it’ and when it came to the crunch Westwood was there, held his nerve and won …………………………
 
Only in England can a guy get sl@gged off for winning.

Only 2 players in the top 10 after Rnd3 scored better than Westwood on Sunday and that was only by 1 shot. Karlsson shot 1 worse than Westwood but I don't hear anyone saying he choked.

I say bl**dy well done Lee, thouroughly deserved and another British winner on the PGA Tour this year. Long may it continue.
 
Does anyone know what its like to play in front of all those people in tempratures of over 100 degrees for over 5 hours and then go into a play-off, knowing the press would have a field day if he lost another one?
Brilliant Lee, well done. :D
 
Handed to him not once but twice....that said great birdie at 18 but he shouldn't have got that far and neither should Bob Karlson.

Was anyone else finding that Karlsons freezing over the ball was similar to Sergio when he went through his regrip 50 times before he hit it stage? Seems to me there is alot going on in his skull at the moment which says even more for the fact he managed a 2nd place!
 
He is not getting slagged off for winning, but he was patently not in the driving seat until the play-off.

To bobmac's riposte, does he know what it is like to get your first chance at a career-changing win only to blow it?

The whole field played in the same 100 degree heat for 5 hours.
 
Does anyone know what its like to play in front of all those people in tempratures of over 100 degrees for over 5 hours and then go into a play-off, knowing the press would have a field day if he lost another one?
Brilliant Lee, well done. :D

No. But I played in a pro am that had the first tee lined both sides with people and if I miss hit, it I would have killed a few. Not in the same class I know, but I ended up with nappy rash. :o
 
Handed to him not once but twice....that said great birdie at 18 but he shouldn't have got that far and neither should Bob Karlson.

If Westwood had the lead that Robert Garrigus had and then blew it on the last hole the people would accuse him of 'choking’, but when Robert Garrigus ‘chokes’ on the last hole everyone says Westwood was handed the win ………

Why the negativity when the guy has kept his nerve and won a tournament :D
 
He is not getting slagged off for winning, but he was patently not in the driving seat until the play-off.

So frigging what? Who cares if he wasn't in the driving seat, the point is, after 71 holes he was still there and when the opportunity came, he took it.

Faldo wasn't in the driving seat at the masters when Norman had the collapse of all collapses but he still got his name on the trophy.

I just think we are too quick to criticise in this country. We sl@g people off for not winning and then when they do we say it was handed to them.

It doesn't really matter if you get a treble on the 1st, 27th or 72nd hole, what matters at the end of the day is what you score for all 72 holes combined.

How many times on here do you read posts of guys who play well and mess up the last hole or 2? I've done it countless times and probably handed comp wins to other guys in the process but no-one cares about that, it's what you score over 18 holes that counts and that's no different for the pro's over 72 holes.

These guys are supposed to be the best of the best and winning golf tournaments isn't supposed to be easy. All Garrigus had to do was make double bogey on the last hole and he couldn't do it. He could have stuffed his tee shot into the right hand bunker, laid up and 3 putted and still won the tournament. You've got to ask yourself, if he couldn't do that, does he deserve to win?
 
He is not getting slagged off for winning, but he was patently not in the driving seat until the play-off.

So frigging what? Who cares if he wasn't in the driving seat, the point is, after 71 holes he was still there and when the opportunity came, he took it.

Faldo wasn't in the driving seat at the masters when Norman had the collapse of all collapses but he still got his name on the trophy.

I just think we are too quick to criticise in this country. We sl@g people off for not winning and then when they do we say it was handed to them.

It doesn't really matter if you get a treble on the 1st, 27th or 72nd hole, what matters at the end of the day is what you score for all 72 holes combined.

How many times on here do you read posts of guys who play well and mess up the last hole or 2? I've done it countless times and probably handed comp wins to other guys in the process but no-one cares about that, it's what you score over 18 holes that counts and that's no different for the pro's over 72 holes.

These guys are supposed to be the best of the best and winning golf tournaments isn't supposed to be easy. All Garrigus had to do was make double bogey on the last hole and he couldn't do it. He could have stuffed his tee shot into the right hand bunker, laid up and 3 putted and still won the tournament. You've got to ask yourself, if he couldn't do that, does he deserve to win?

So frigging what is that there is a difference between taking control of an event and being handed it. If you don't understand that, then there is really no point in trying to explain it.

Credit to Westwood who was there and took advantage of his opportunity. But the simple fact is that a victory where he had seized the lead and forged ahead, putting himself out of reach of others, would be a more commanding and convincing victory.
 
He is not getting slagged off for winning, but he was patently not in the driving seat until the play-off.

So frigging what? Who cares if he wasn't in the driving seat, the point is, after 71 holes he was still there and when the opportunity came, he took it.

Faldo wasn't in the driving seat at the masters when Norman had the collapse of all collapses but he still got his name on the trophy.

I just think we are too quick to criticise in this country. We sl@g people off for not winning and then when they do we say it was handed to them.

It doesn't really matter if you get a treble on the 1st, 27th or 72nd hole, what matters at the end of the day is what you score for all 72 holes combined.

How many times on here do you read posts of guys who play well and mess up the last hole or 2? I've done it countless times and probably handed comp wins to other guys in the process but no-one cares about that, it's what you score over 18 holes that counts and that's no different for the pro's over 72 holes.

These guys are supposed to be the best of the best and winning golf tournaments isn't supposed to be easy. All Garrigus had to do was make double bogey on the last hole and he couldn't do it. He could have stuffed his tee shot into the right hand bunker, laid up and 3 putted and still won the tournament. You've got to ask yourself, if he couldn't do that, does he deserve to win?

So frigging what is that there is a difference between taking control of an event and being handed it. If you don't understand that, then there is really no point in trying to explain it.

Credit to Westwood who was there and took advantage of his opportunity. But the simple fact is that a victory where he had seized the lead and forged ahead, putting himself out of reach of others, would be a more commanding and convincing victory.

Clearly I understand the difference, I just don't understand why it matters. Golf tournaments aren't always won by someone shooting 65 on Sunday and winning by 4 shots and a golf tournament isn't just about Sunday. There are 4 rounds and if at the end of the 4th round you are at the top then you deserve to win.

Would you have been happier if Westwood had shot 63 on Sunday and 68 on Thursday, would that have been more commanding?
 
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