West lancs 24th feb results thread and after game banter

gregbwfc said:
Glad you all had a good time - it really is a top course ain't it.
Gutted I couldn't make it.
Sounds like it was a right laugh too.
Be plenty more to follow this next few months me thinks :D
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Its a good track however I wouldn't say its a top track. Its in the Glasgow Gailes bracket. Tough with a premium on accuracy. Loved the small greens and how slick and subtle they were. The start is the killer and if you get off to a decent start you could potentially score well. I was not a fan of 11, 13 and 14. Certainly 13 & 14 lost the links feel and were parkland in nature. The clubhouse is also a ramshackle of extended brick. It really needs demolished and started again.

I'd like to go back and play West Lancs in the summer months and see her at her best. Good track, very good track but not top drawer.
 
thecraw said:
Its a good track however I wouldn't say its a top track. Its in the Glasgow Gailes bracket. Tough with a premium on accuracy. Loved the small greens and how slick and subtle they were. The start is the killer and if you get off to a decent start you could potentially score well. I was not a fan of 11, 13 and 14. Certainly 13 & 14 lost the links feel and were parkland in nature. The clubhouse is also a ramshackle of extended brick. It really needs demolished and started again.

I'd like to go back and play West Lancs in the summer months and see her at her best. Good track, very good track but not top drawer.
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Off the whites would make a considerably difference wouldn't it? I think some of the fairway bunkers played more to people like me off the yellows taking a 3w around 200/210, although I only found 1. But off the whites I wouldn't be anywhere near them but you guys taking drivers that carried them off the yellows, they would come into play more so.....off the whites a much tougher track!
 
thecraw said:
Its a good track however I wouldn't say its a top track. Its in the Glasgow Gailes bracket. Tough with a premium on accuracy. Loved the small greens and how slick and subtle they were. The start is the killer and if you get off to a decent start you could potentially score well. I was not a fan of 11, 13 and 14. Certainly 13 & 14 lost the links feel and were parkland in nature. The clubhouse is also a ramshackle of extended brick. It really needs demolished and started again.

I'd like to go back and play West Lancs in the summer months and see her at her best. Good track, very good track but not top drawer.
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I thought the clubhouse was a let down too. Its a bit of an eyesore! especially when your out on the course looking in the distance and you see that thing.

I bet the course off the back tees in summer with a bit more wind would be a real test.
 
thecraw said:
Its a good track however I wouldn't say its a top track. Its in the Glasgow Gailes bracket. Tough with a premium on accuracy. Loved the small greens and how slick and subtle they were. The start is the killer and if you get off to a decent start you could potentially score well. I was not a fan of 11, 13 and 14. Certainly 13 & 14 lost the links feel and were parkland in nature. The clubhouse is also a ramshackle of extended brick. It really needs demolished and started again.

I'd like to go back and play West Lancs in the summer months and see her at her best. Good track, very good track but not top drawer.
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Would agree with this, other than comparison with Glasgow Gailes as not played it.

Certainly a few holes on the back seemed out of place and were a little weaker, the front 9 is very good though. As craw says would love to play it in the summer, not sure I would pay the green fee though....
 
Birchy said:
I thought the clubhouse was a let down too. Its a bit of an eyesore! especially when your out on the course looking in the distance and you see that thing.

I bet the course off the back tees in summer with a bit more wind would be a real test.
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I thought the biggest shocker was that not only was the kitchen closed for food, they couldn't make any hot drinks either!

No wonder the clubhouse was empty with a single barmen, our bar at the weekends is busting a gut with 3bar staff to keep it flowing.
 
I thought it was poor show given we had 16 heads and they had no food on for us, they clearly don't need the dough.

Agree with craws assessment on the course, opening holes are very tough and a premium on accuracy. Very very good track although for me not as good as St Anne's Old Links but very good all the same.
 
It was only my 2nd time playing on a links so I loved it. The other links I played was Saunton Sands which I don't think was as tough, maybe longer because I played off the whites but the conditions were easier at Saunton as your not right on the front like West Lancs fighting the elements also.

The more I keep reading about the front 9 being tough from you seasoned links players the more I'm chuffed with my 17 points on the turn and that was with a stupid blob on a par 3. Just wished I could have held it together on the back 9.

I've got the links bug though, love the experience.
 
thecraw said:
The clubhouse is also a ramshackle of extended brick. It really needs demolished and started again.

I'd like to go back and play West Lancs in the summer months and see her at her best. Good track, very good track but not top drawer.
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Tell the members that, I asked the pro the score on green fees and joining fees, before I went out, as it's one of the 4 I'm considering joining in the next 2 years.

He said that there is still another 5 years £100 extra supplement on the green fees to pay for the clubhouse improvements. It was the same when I went there last year, no-one in the bar after play then either. Gives it a soulless atmosphere.

Agree with Craw, I would class Carnoustie, Turnberry, Hillside,Formby, St.Andrews,Royal Lytham and St.Mellion as 10 out of 10 courses.

I'd class West lancs, S and A, Royal Liverpool, Dundonald as 9/10.
 
It makes a 7/10 with me. Not in the same league as Western Gailes or Machrihanish and Machrihanish Dunes.

Its certainly on a par probably better (just) than Dundonald but I'd say Dundonald is more fun. I think its a fair comparison against Glasgow Gailes due to the premium on accuracy.
 
I felt slightly punch drunk at the turn through really having to graft for pars and bogeys. I didn't play great overall but I don't think ever putted better. I thought that front 9 really was tough, it wasn't about just hitting greens it was about hitting them in the right places to avoid 3 putting.

The shortened 10&11 gave enough respite to get some focus back, the rest of the back 9 was pretty playable.
Id like to play it again in the summer but if I was paying those summer fees I'd probably head to southport instead.

Very good course though and I'm glad Ive played it.
 
Liverbirdie said:
Tell the members that, I asked the pro the score on green fees and joining fees, before I went out, as it's one of the 4 I'm considering joining in the next 2 years.

He said that there is still another 5 years £100 extra supplement on the green fees to pay for the clubhouse improvements. It was the same when I went there last year, no-one in the bar after play then either. Gives it a soulless atmosphere.

Agree with Craw, I would class Carnoustie, Turnberry, Hillside,Formby, St.Andrews,Royal Lytham and St.Mellion as 10 out of 10 courses.

I'd class West lancs, S and A, Royal Liverpool, Dundonald as 9/10.
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Not sure I'd have it 9/10.

My own benchmarks would be Lytham as a 10 (despite the uninspiring setting), Gullane No.1 as a 9 and west lancs an 8
 
One of the other things was most of the bunkers were GUR. HDIDKenny gained more than most on that score. :whistle:

If your talking difficulty, rather than enjoyment, if it was off the whites, all bunkers in play and blowing even a 15 mph wind, anything in the 30 points would have been a very good score indeed.

If going on again next year, I'll be interested again.

Dundonald - cracking course, except the 10th - joke of a hole, especially when you play 17 holes in 2 over, and you get an 11 on it.
 
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Qwerty said:
I don't think ever putted better. I thought that front 9 really was tough

Very good course though and I'm glad Ive played it.
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Slight understatement!! Not sure I've played with anyone that holed out like you did on Sunday!

Agree with the second part though, glad I've played and certainly think I'll play it again at some point
 
Qwerty said:
I felt slightly punch drunk at the turn through really having to graft for pars and bogeys. I didn't play great overall but I don't think ever putted better. I thought that front 9 really was tough, it wasn't about just hitting greens it was about hitting them in the right places to avoid 3 putting.

The shortened 10&11 gave enough respite to get some focus back, the rest of the back 9 was pretty playable.
Id like to play it again in the summer but if I was paying those summer fees I'd probably head to southport instead.

Very good course though and I'm glad Ive played it.
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The 10th was still a 200 yard adjusted par 3 the way we played it and to a very small green, possibly the smallest out their!
 
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