Wednesday down!

[Basher]

Pretty sad to see Sheffield Wednesday relegated. Too big a club to grace League 1. (Leeds can rot there for me!!!) Crap League for Northern teams as the majority are Southern. Hopefully my team win the play offs and get out of there!

 

[The_Squire]

I wanted Wednesday to stay up for our old boy Darren Purse.

Gutted for you.

 

[Pants]

Eagles...Eagles...

Well done boys.

 

[CrapHacker]

I feel for Wednesday, but as far as the Palace fans are concerned, they definitely didn't deserve to get relegated.

I understand why there is the points deduction, but I'm not absolutely convinced it's the best option

 

[Dodger]

Too big a club??

Aye that's why they are now in that league....too big a club my arse.

 

[Basher]

I know they're going down due to not playing good enough. However, how many lower league teams have the infrastructure and weekly attendances of the likes of Sheffield Wednesday.
30,000 gates are common. Look at the likes of Colchester (6,000) and you see the difference. That is why they are a big club. They're not my team, just feel for them.

Apart from Rangers and Celtic, how many other Scottish teams could boast 30,000+ gates. Just drop one league and you're looking at 9,000 and less.

 

[Midnight]

Hi mate,

I am Forest fan and have followed them through the glory years, the bad years and now hopefully the good times.

I know what you mean ref the crowds and the grounds, however it all boils down to not being up to the task of staying in the correct div that you think they should be in.

Whose your team ?

Midnight...

 

[beggsy]

by the sounds of it its the team whos fans defaced the billy bremner statue outside elland road MOT, WACCOE

 

[AuburnWarrior]

I'm a Palace fan so I'm over the moon that we stayed up. It's been a tough season and I think that going down would have finished us for good. By us staying up I hope that we can now find a buyer.

I feel for the Wednesday (not the idiots that attacked our players at the end) and I'm sure you'll be up sooner rather than later.

With regards the 'big club' tag - as far as I'm concerned this is a rediculous label. How do you measure it??? fan base??? Capacity of the ground??? Members??? Season ticket holders??? Any team is only as good as the 11 players on the pitch - simple. A crowd can make a difference - Liverpool, Fulham on Thursday night, etc but it's the 11 players that play the game.

Man City would probably class themselves as a big club - they ended up in div 2 (or whatever it's called today... ) and West Ham keep saying that they're a big club but then they also say that they won the World Cup so we'll file them under 'T' for Tools.

 

[beggsy]

a big club to me is a team that has won things at the very highest level of football

 

[AuburnWarrior]

So, by that reckoning, Portsmouth are a big club - as are Wimbledon (or whatever they're called) and Ipswich.

I'll think of some more...

 

[Basher]

Big clubs are the ones with large fan bases, large grounds and infrastructure as well as achievements.
The Championship contains several "big clubs" as well as minor clubs.

Yes, Leeds are a big club who shouldn't be in League 1. Mismanagement, overspending and exodus of players when the slide started are mainly responsible for the position they are in now.

You're spot on Beggsy with your assumption. However, what happened to the Bremner statue was disgraceful and certainly didn't help build good relations between the two clubs.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Weren't Forest supposedly too good to go down the year they got relegated. It happens. I can still remember Man Utd in the second division and lets not forget Leeds were close to winning in Europe not so long ago.

I'm not sure about this big club thing though. Are Newcastle a big club because of their support. Maybe. Certainly not on trophies won. I think what matters is supporting your team big or small. The disappointment Wednesday fans are feeling is part and parcel of it all. God knows there have been so many more disappointments than joys watching and supporting Fulham and we were so close to going out of the league altogether. The point is times change and it makes the good times that much better. I'm not saying Wednesday are going to bounce straight back up and it will take a lot of rebuilding if some of the storys about finances etc are correct. The fans need to keep the faith which I'm sure they'll do anyway.

 

[CrapHacker]

I'm not sure about this big club thing though.

I still think of Arsenal as a small club.

Just a bloody good small club.



We're not really, and haven't been for years. But a family run club who keeps their books in order, and takes success as and when it comes along, rather than treating it as the Holy Grail.

Rather than a club with delusions of grandeur that is willing to gamble with, and ultimately sacrifice, it's future standing for that extra success today.

Which is what has happened to all of the supposed 'big' clubs that are in the lower divisions, and still might happen to Man U and Liverpool if the whatsit hits the fan.

The only way for clubs to get back into the real bigtime nowadays is to find that multi billionaire backer, like Chelsea and Man City.

I know that Man U are still succeeding, but I'd still feel very uncomforatable about where it's going to end up for them in a year or two. As for Liverpool, without a huge investment from outside, it's the big slide downhill for them.

 

[viscount17]

big club/great club - they're tags too easily attached to clubs and not so easy to remove. more than a few 'great clubs' were great 30 years ago, what they are now are mediocre, run-of-the-mill, never going to be out of mid-table of whatever league they're in now.
some of them have a fan base they don't deserve on current performance but the fans really have nowhere else to go - and the owners know it!

always thought, and still believe, there are too many clubs, chasing too few decent players. imo more need to go to the wall to improve the stock. (much as the Sachi & Sachi warehouse fire improved the quality of Britain's art.)