Wedges

[Nick_Toye]

I have 3 specialist wedges. 52,56,60. I don't count my PW as a wedge as its probably more like a 9 iron in old money.

I use all of my wedges and use a different one based on a number of factors, lie, distance, height required, landing etc.

I am going to start the Pelz theory but slightly adapted, where you have 3 swings (7:30, 9:00 and 10:30 backswing) for 3 clubs, so you get 9 distances (his theory uses 4, so you get 12) Just need to go and "set" all my distances. This will of course then be dependent on the above conditions first, but assuming from a decent lie with no danger, i will be using this "technique"

Its a decent theory, more for advanced players though?

ah, sorry. my advice then, two hybrids, say 22/23 and 18/19 !


they will help your game much more than an extra wedge at this stage. later when you can hit those 40 wedge shots without fail, you should think about adding another wedge.

the hybrids will be a lot more use to you over the winter! maybe next spring would be a good time to add in a wedge.

No worries.

I'm not sure what you mean by 22/23 18/19 - I presume you mean loft? Not sure how I can find that out from this - http://www.americangolf.co.uk/NikeGolf/Nike-VR-S-Covert-Grp-Hy/243144,en_GB,pd.html

I've got 4 wedges in the bag, as per my sig below, I like to get the ball in the air around the green hence why I have a wedge for all occasion.

Suppose its down to the player then.

 

[Nick_Toye]

To be honest I have this mindset of completing a set. I just bought some club covers from ebay and have a 4I, LW and AW covers left over. ha ha.

 

[garyinderry]

I'm not sure what you mean by 22/23 18/19 - I presume you mean loft? Not sure how I can find that out from this - http://www.americangolf.co.uk/NikeGolf/Nike-VR-S-Covert-Grp-Hy/243144,en_GB,pd.html



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they are ball park loft figures. I know you are a nike man. im not sure what loft they make their hybrids. if you get two near those lofts you wont go far wrong.

hybrids lower than 18 degrees can be quite tricky to use. above 18 you should have no problems hitting.

 

[Beezerk]

Added a 50 deg wedge about a month ago to my PW (45), 54 and 58 collection. Personally I found I was hitting my 54 harder to compensate for the distance and making mistakes in the process. Although I don't use the 50 as much as the others it's nice to have for certain shots so I can keep my swing constant if that makes sense.
My PW seems quite aggressive which puts me off using it near the green.

 

[Nick_Toye]

they are ball park loft figures. I know you are a nike man. im not sure what loft they make their hybrids. if you get two near those lofts you wont go far wrong.

hybrids lower than 18 degrees can be quite tricky to use. above 18 you should have no problems hitting.

Thanks, appreciate the advice.

 

[Nick_Toye]

Added a 50 deg wedge about a month ago to my PW (45), 54 and 58 collection. Personally I found I was hitting my 54 harder to compensate for the distance and making mistakes in the process. Although I don't use the 50 as much as the others it's nice to have for certain shots so I can keep my swing constant if that makes sense.
My PW seems quite aggressive which puts me off using it near the green.

Fair enough.

 

[Rooter]

Its a decent theory, more for advanced players though?

Not at all, iMHO for any player that wants to lower their scores! the majority of "scoring" is done within 100 yards say, thats where most shots are lost. if you can get the ball to within say 12ft of the hole, i would call that a "chance" of a single putt for me, i might actually only hole 1 in 5 say (probably even less!), but still a chance.

In my opinion, the closer you can get it to the hole, the easier it is to putt less. The easiest way to get it closer to the hole, is being very accurate with your wedges within "the scoring zone"

On a par 4 say of 400 yards, 2 150 yard 7 irons and a wedge from 100 yards to within 10 ft, you have a chance for a par! i have digressed somewhat to the original question though! sorry! LOL

 

[Nick_Toye]

Not at all, iMHO for any player that wants to lower their scores! the majority of "scoring" is done within 100 yards say, thats where most shots are lost. if you can get the ball to within say 12ft of the hole, i would call that a "chance" of a single putt for me, i might actually only hole 1 in 5 say (probably even less!), but still a chance.

In my opinion, the closer you can get it to the hole, the easier it is to putt less. The easiest way to get it closer to the hole, is being very accurate with your wedges within "the scoring zone"

On a par 4 say of 400 yards, 2 150 yard 7 irons and a wedge from 100 yards to within 10 ft, you have a chance for a par! i have digressed somewhat to the original question though! sorry! LOL

Ok good stuff, I may well take a look. It's still related. Pelz is that guy who has Augusta in his back garden.

 

[GreiginFife]

Practice with what you have at the moment before adding anything else.
As someone has pointed out, most scoring is done via the short game so turn those bad shots in to good ones by practicing (probably best at a range) and work out how far you can hit each one (without smashing them).

Once you have that sorted then you can work out a) if you have a significant gap, b) if you can/can't fill that gap with 3/4 or 1/2 swings and c) what to do based on the results of a) and b)...

It might be that you don't need a GW (AW?, never liked that term) or not. This will let you worry about other areas of the bag if you don't.

 

[Nick_Toye]

Ok thanks, good advice too.

 

[pokerjoke]

I have 3 specialist wedges. 52,56,60. I don't count my PW as a wedge as its probably more like a 9 iron in old money.

I use all of my wedges and use a different one based on a number of factors, lie, distance, height required, landing etc.

I am going to start the Pelz theory but slightly adapted, where you have 3 swings (7:30, 9:00 and 10:30 backswing) for 3 clubs, so you get 9 distances (his theory uses 4, so you get 12) Just need to go and "set" all my distances. This will of course then be dependent on the above conditions first, but assuming from a decent lie with no danger, i will be using this "technique"

Loving this,nothing like a good book

 

[Rooter]

Loving this,nothing like a good book

LOL its probably the one thing i really took away from it. i used to hit wedges long, short etc but rarely off line.. did you get much from it??

 

[pokerjoke]

LOL its probably the one thing i really took away from it. i used to hit wedges long, short etc but rarely off line.. did you get much from it??

Yes most definitely.
I must admit I have heard of the clockface drill many times in the past,however ive never used
it with my wedges at all,generally it was feel and guess work.
Since I read the book I have been on the practice range for hours,hitting hundreds of shots with
my wedges homing in yardages.
I can safely say my short game has come on leaps and bounds,even in my last 2 rounds.
Getting the near exact yardages on the course is now giving me shorter putts,also my putting
has come on so much lately, so lots more birdies.
Well worth the £5.60 it cost to send on.

 

[Rooter]

Getting the near exact yardages on the course is now giving me shorter putts,also my putting
has come on so much lately, so lots more birdies.
Well worth the £5.60 it cost to send on.

Exactly the point i was trying to make earlier, get it as close as you can to maximise the opportunity for 1 putts! imagine if you could 1 putt every green rather than 2 putt... that's 18 shots less a round!!! OK, lets not get into the got to get it to the green first debate etc.. but in basic form, the closer you get it to the hole, the easier it is to 1 putt.

And well done on the cuts!! i need to get out and work out my yardages!!