munro007
Tour Rookie
But they will spend £300+ on a driver, makes me laugh.....
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But they will spend £300+ on a driver, makes me laugh.....
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
moogie
Tour Winner
And a £220 Scotty Cameron that probs does Nowt for their game either................BUT each to their own
Deke
Journeyman Pro
Despite being a Titleist obsessive I have never tried a Vokey on the course,probably due to the quality and performance of my Mizunos.If anybody would like to give me one I would be happy to add my 2 cents worth to this thread asap! 
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
My old dave whitlam wedges were Japanese forged, us machined, assembled in the uk, mahoosive carbon foot print beauties. Were they better than vokeys? May be. Better than my current nikes, may be. Are miura, scratch, epon, 14, royal collection, etc, better than vokeys? Who knows. Possibly, possibly not.
How much is opinion turned by price? There is evidence that people will not back down, once they have made a decision, regardless of how stupid the decision subsequently turns out to be.
Is it better to have a new wedge every month, to keep the grooves sharp?
Each to their own. But it does bug me when some one states that xxx is the best. It probably isn't. There is always something better out here some where.
How much is opinion turned by price? There is evidence that people will not back down, once they have made a decision, regardless of how stupid the decision subsequently turns out to be.
Is it better to have a new wedge every month, to keep the grooves sharp?
Each to their own. But it does bug me when some one states that xxx is the best. It probably isn't. There is always something better out here some where.
Qwerty
Tour Winner
How are we defining "better"
Surely the only way is via Stats' and the scorecard.
Personally, all I know is I could have the most expensive wedge in the world, hand crafted by Japan's finest metallurgists but if I don't practice in the back garden every other night my short game instantly goes down the pan, and I'll duff and top that wedge just like any other.
Surely the only way is via Stats' and the scorecard.
Personally, all I know is I could have the most expensive wedge in the world, hand crafted by Japan's finest metallurgists but if I don't practice in the back garden every other night my short game instantly goes down the pan, and I'll duff and top that wedge just like any other.
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munro007
Tour Rookie
What do you mean, people coming out with ridiculous statements like this.
One Planer
Global Moderator
Mine does
Back on topic.
I have, for a surprise, Mizzy wedges. Brought them off Bigslice on here and they are fantastic.
I don't like Vokeys, for no other reason than they feel a little weighty. The look great, no doubt play great, they're just not for me.
Price doesn't really come into the figuring when I look at equipment. I go with what I like, hence me spending £210 on my Scotty.
Are there better putters out there, probably. Better for me, I don't think so.
Deke
Journeyman Pro
Hear,hear! ;-)
MGL
Challenge Tour Pro
Miura are not a mass market product in the way that the main OEM's are and aren't interested in pursuing a yearly (i.e. r11, r11s, r1, etc) or two yearly (i.e. BB04, BB06, BB08) production cycle to chase revenue. Technology in golf clubmaking simply does not move that fast.
When I was in the US doing some of my clubmaking training (the best country to do it bar none), I visited the Miura HQ after becoming a certified fitter for them and I met with Adam Barr who is their president. In his office are the 'Titleist' irons that Tiger used to win a couple of his majors with, that were forged by Miura using their processes and metals - in the Titleist moulds. Whilst I did not personally see any of his 'Nike', I am certain from what I was told that most of his early Nikes were not in fact Nikes.
I've also seen the half finished last set of irons that Tom Wishon was making for Payne Stewart when he died - Wishon had been through about 5 personal fittings with Stewart at this point and was still nowhere near finished. There are some Taylormade made irons that are actually Miura, as are some Macgregors. Miura did contract work for high end heads before striking out on his own. He never has paid anyone to play his clubs nor would he need to in the future.
Most pro's I know would play ANYTHING if it was given to them for nothing. They EXPECT things for nothing.
I haven't as long a list of wedges as Moogie has but I have been able to tell the difference in some of the more exotic brands. They don't actually cost that much more than something like a Vokey to be honest but there is a lot of brand negativity around the likes of the exotic makes which from most of the posts I read on here, is plain daft.
Find something you like the feel of - and accept that feel is a personal thing to you - and get on with it and don't bash other people for being different. Personally, I don't think Vokeys are the product they were a few years back, ever since Bob cashed in his chips and sold out to Tittylest; in the same way that I don't think Scotties are the same as they were either.
Now, should I start a thread called "Scotty".........????????????????????????
richart
Major Champion
What is it about wedges that causes such heated debate ? 
I personally found my Vokey wedges too heavy, and much prefer my Mizuno ones, which feel almost indentical when I swing them to my Mizuno irons. When I started played and you bought a new set of irons you got a wedge and sandwedge included in the set, and that was it. Happy days.
I personally found my Vokey wedges too heavy, and much prefer my Mizuno ones, which feel almost indentical when I swing them to my Mizuno irons. When I started played and you bought a new set of irons you got a wedge and sandwedge included in the set, and that was it. Happy days.
Hmmm.
Do Vokeys rule?
Or is it merely a lot of spin?
There's only one way to find out...........
Do Vokeys rule?
Or is it merely a lot of spin?
There's only one way to find out...........
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deanobillquay
Guest
Comparing a dunlop putter to a miura/vokey/cleveland is just plain ridiculous.
PhilTheFragger
Provider of Entertainment for the Golfing Gods 🙄
Didnt know Vokey did putters ,
We be having a debate about wedgesI think that the consensus is that nobody is knocking the quality of these nice wedges from Vokey or Miura, They are beautiful clubs , But they may not be the right club for YOU, because everybody is different.
And it may well be that a cheaper product will perform just as well or better, as a more expensive product in the same hands.
So the club you choose is the one that works best for YOU, and it doesnt matter if it is a £5 one from the second user bin or a £300 gold plated one
Fragger
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deanobillquay
Guest
Didnt know Vokey did putters ,
A typo....It was 6.30 in the morning when I posted...
User20205
Money List Winner
What is it about wedges that causes such heated debate ?
I personally found my Vokey wedges too heavy, and much prefer my Mizuno ones, which feel almost indentical when I swing them to my Mizuno irons. When I started played and you bought a new set of irons you got a wedge and sandwedge included in the set, and that was it. Happy days.
were those your ' Alf Padgham's' ???
its an inevitable consequence of lowering irons lofts unfortunately. My new set has an A wedge. much to swingers disgust :thup: I don't have to mess around with some Japanese forged, triple folded Hakusa nonsense. I've got my indestructible callaway spade
!!!the best wedges I have owned are an MD sand wedge currently in the bag & a Yes gap wedge that I sold in haste when I got a custom set a few years ago. I've had a vokey. it was OK, nothing different from any other offering from anyone else.
maybe. but my MD sand wedge cost £29,99 from JD sports !! I prefer it to any other I've had
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ScienceBoy
Money List Winner
I like my mizunos, they look nice.
Unless you can feel something wrong then its down to appeal, looks and confidence. Personally I find Vokeys feel off balanced where as my mizunos feel perfectly in harmony with me.
Unless you can feel something wrong then its down to appeal, looks and confidence. Personally I find Vokeys feel off balanced where as my mizunos feel perfectly in harmony with me.
One Planer
Global Moderator
I can see Munro and Moogies point on this thread if I'm being honest.
Some people will go out and spend £500+ on irons, £200+ on a putter, £300+ on a driver and the same again ona a fairway and hybrid, so, what's the issue when it comes to wedges?
Makes sense. I've long argued that people are more than willing to spend stupid money on a driver but begrudge shelling out for a decent putter.
My take on this subject is this. I play golf for fun (.....Sometimes), it's my hobby, so I want to enjoy it. If that means paying top wack for equipment, so be it. It's my money, it brings me enjoyment, what's wrong with that? More powe to you :thup:
My personal take on the matter is they are over priced. Pure and simple.
Look at it another way. Take a Miura, Vega, Mizuno and A.N.Other forged wedge, but a bit of gaffer tape over the back of the head and hit 20 balls with each of a fairway, then 20 out of sand. Chances are you'll not be able to tell the high end, premium wedge from an off the shelf Mizzy.
Can I say this for certain. Well, IMO yes. I've hit Miura, Vega and most recently a MacGregor VIP wedges and to be honest, I couldn't tell the difference from my Mizuno MP-T10. Don't get me wrong they were very nice, but not worth their hefty price tag.
I will ask a question on Miuras though. How much does one of these depreciate by after it has been intoruced to a stone the size of a babys head in a bunker?
Some people will go out and spend £500+ on irons, £200+ on a putter, £300+ on a driver and the same again ona a fairway and hybrid, so, what's the issue when it comes to wedges?
Makes sense. I've long argued that people are more than willing to spend stupid money on a driver but begrudge shelling out for a decent putter.
My take on this subject is this. I play golf for fun (.....Sometimes), it's my hobby, so I want to enjoy it. If that means paying top wack for equipment, so be it. It's my money, it brings me enjoyment, what's wrong with that? More powe to you :thup:
My personal take on the matter is they are over priced. Pure and simple.
Look at it another way. Take a Miura, Vega, Mizuno and A.N.Other forged wedge, but a bit of gaffer tape over the back of the head and hit 20 balls with each of a fairway, then 20 out of sand. Chances are you'll not be able to tell the high end, premium wedge from an off the shelf Mizzy.
Can I say this for certain. Well, IMO yes. I've hit Miura, Vega and most recently a MacGregor VIP wedges and to be honest, I couldn't tell the difference from my Mizuno MP-T10. Don't get me wrong they were very nice, but not worth their hefty price tag.
I will ask a question on Miuras though. How much does one of these depreciate by after it has been intoruced to a stone the size of a babys head in a bunker?
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Which is exactly what the defensive Miura Boys haven't been doing. All the "this is best and the rest isn't" has been coming from them. The implication has been that Miura is best........
Why can't people accept that some clubs work better than others for some people, some people prefer one club to another.
Slagging someone's choice just because it's not the same or doesn't cost as much is so pathetic.
