Vaccines

[larmen]

I'll be as close to the front of the queue as I can get...

That is my definition of immediately in this case. We can’t all be 1st, but when it is our turn we shouldn’t skip it.

 

[Jamesbrown]

No, not immediately. I’ll treat it like new off the line phones and cars. Wait for the faults to be ironed out and updates rolled out.
Probably a few years wait unless forced to. The risk of a side effect is probably greater than me dying of it so no rush.

 

[Tashyboy]

Tash being Tash am at The front of the queue like good ole days when proper January sales Were on. However Missis Tash says she will wait to see if there are any side effects which may take some time. Tash May have to re cast his vote. ?

 

[Orikoru]

I honestly haven't thought about it. Depends what it entails or how easy it is. Would they determine if you actually need one or just hand them out willy nilly?

 

[Deleted member 25172]

There's already a first draft priority list of groups that would get the vaccine and in what order. I'm gonna hazard a guess that I won't be having a jab until late next year or so.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...e-on-priority-groups-for-covid-19-vaccination

1. older adults’ resident in a care home and care home workers1
2. all those 80 years of age and over and health and social care workers1
3. all those 75 years of age and over
4. all those 70 years of age and over
5. all those 65 years of age and over
6. high-risk adults under 65 years of age
7. moderate-risk adults under 65 years of age
8. all those 60 years of age and over
9. all those 55 years of age and over
10. all those 50 years of age and over
11. rest of the population (priority to be determined)2

 

[IanM]

Sorry, what was the question? The tin-foil on my head slipped over my eyes!

I did see something about how long flu vaccine took to do.... of course science has moved on since then! So hope it is quicker!

 

[Ethan]

I will be happy to receive a vaccine as soon as one is approved by the EMA (the MHRA in the UK will not be ready). There is a lot of nonsense on social media about corner being cut and safety compromised. As someone who has been in medicines development for over 20 years, I am confident in the development and approval process. I wouldn't take the Russian one, though.

 

[Billysboots]

I will be happy to receive a vaccine as soon as one is approved by the EMA (the MHRA in the UK will not be ready). There is a lot of nonsense on social media about corner being cut and safety compromised. As someone who has been in medicines development for over 20 years, I am confident in the development and approval process. I wouldn't take the Russian one, though.

That’s good enough for me.

 

[Mudball]

Depends on who makes it... i want one, but i guess there are more needy ones before me...

 

[jim8flog]

There was a very interesting discussion on the box about who should get it first. Children of school age or key workers?

The arguments for either case left me totally undecided. I am in the elderly at risk class but would hate to think I was made a priority.

 

[jim8flog]

They are the source of my awesomeness.

What happens when you fall off one?

 

[Kellfire]

There was a very interesting discussion on the box about who should get it first. Children of school age or key workers?

The arguments for either case left me totally undecided. I am in the elderly at risk class but would hate to think I was made a priority.

If we want school to stay active, I think primary school children must be high up the list.

 

[GB72]

I would certainly have teachers and pupils at the top of the list. It should be, in comparison to other sectors, a far quicker and easier process to vaccinate schools. My only issue there is that we know what a hot potato kids and vaccines has been in other areas.

 

[Ethan]

The logical way to prioritise is by benefit-risk, that is those who stand to benefit most compared to the incremental risk of taking the vaccine compared to not getting it. That is the basis of the JCVI prioritisation, although it is done rather crudely. There is an argument that high risk people under 65 should be prioritised before fit and well older people not in care homes or shielding, but the process is probably designed at least in part to allow bureaucrats to manage it.

I also suspect that private companies will make their own arrangements so you may well be offered a jab by your employer outside of that system well before your number comes up in the NHS process.

 

[Tashyboy]

There's already a first draft priority list of groups that would get the vaccine and in what order. I'm gonna hazard a guess that I won't be having a jab until late next year or so.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...e-on-priority-groups-for-covid-19-vaccination

1. older adults’ resident in a care home and care home workers1
2. all those 80 years of age and over and health and social care workers1
3. all those 75 years of age and over
4. all those 70 years of age and over
5. all those 65 years of age and over
6. high-risk adults under 65 years of age
7. moderate-risk adults under 65 years of age
8. all those 60 years of age and over
9. all those 55 years of age and over
10. all those 50 years of age and over
11. rest of the population (priority to be determined)2

been on the site and had a little read of that, I find it quite ironic that number one( residents in a care home). I fully understand and agree with that. But what I find strange is that care homes seem to of been left in the lurch when this covid outbreak first hit.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

If we want school to stay active, I think primary school children must be high up the list.

As kids are largely unaffected by it, why? The same seems to be the case up to and including university students. I'm not saying don't vaccinate them but why early? Teachers and lecturers, absolutely.

Incidentally, I'm not trying to bump up the list. I'll be one of the last to get jabbed priority wise.

 

[pendodave]

I'm in no rush. Not particularly high risk.
My wife and many of our friends work in the development of new drugs for a multinational pharmaceutical company.... none of them are in a great rush either...it's hard to overstate how much this approval (when it comes) has been accelerated.

 

[HampshireHog]

I'm in no rush. Not particularly high risk.
My wife and many of our friends work in the development of new drugs for a multinational pharmaceutical company.... none of them are in a great rush either...it's hard to overstate how much this approval (when it comes) has been accelerated.

My wife is involved in the clinical trials from what she tell me it feels very much like the scene in the Martian where they start skipping the safety protocols to meet the launch date, my analogy not hers. That being said she says she would have the vaccine straight away. I on the other hand would hold fire.

 

[Kellfire]

As kids are largely unaffected by it, why? The same seems to be the case up to and including university students. I'm not saying don't vaccinate them but why early? Teachers and lecturers, absolutely.

Incidentally, I'm not trying to bump up the list. I'll be one of the last to get jabbed priority wise.

Because they can’t socially distance in the classroom environment as easily as adults can, simply due to their lack of social awareness and understanding the repercussions.

 

[Ethan]

My wife is involved in the clinical trials from what she tell me it feels very much like the scene in the Martian where they start skipping the safety protocols to meet the launch date, my analogy not hers. That being said she says she would have the vaccine straight away. I on the other hand would hold fire.

If you wife has any evidence that safety protocols are not being observed, it is her professional and ethical responsibility to report it.

Because they can’t socially distance in the classroom environment as easily as adults can, simply due to their lack of social awareness and understanding the repercussions.

Because they transmit it.

I'm in no rush. Not particularly high risk.
My wife and many of our friends work in the development of new drugs for a multinational pharmaceutical company.... none of them are in a great rush either...it's hard to overstate how much this approval (when it comes) has been accelerated.

The development has been accelerated, but most of that is from overlapping manufacturing with clinical development. As above, if your wife and friends have any evidence of safety being compromised, they must report it.

I know senior people in the industry working on vaccines and have seen many development programmes over the years. I am comfortable receiving the vaccine if EMA approved and am happy for others to make their own choice. It would be prudent for people not to circulate vague allegations of problems unless they have some evidence or solid examples.