US PGA 2025 Quail Hollow

Neilds said:
No mentions of the complete 'bottle job' by one of the leading players - or is that just reserved for a certain Irishman? :unsure:
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Bit different from constantly over a decade bottling it no?
 
Neilds said:
Really? Constantly?

You never had a bad round?
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How many majors did he win over that 11 year gap? 0 .. constantly missing out. That's why he got the stick ..

Nearly missed the cut on this one so didn't have the chance to come close
 
Why does every time an event finishes people have to look to call someone a bottler

It’s very hard to win

Rahm didn’t bottle it

Just like Rory hasn’t bottle the last ten years

Rahm had a big gap to close and it took a lot to do it as well as Scheffler dropping a few , Rahm was going for it

Reckon he will win one of the next two - his putting and short game was superb
 
Neilds said:
No mentions of the complete 'bottle job' by one of the leading players - or is that just reserved for a certain Irishman? :unsure:
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I suspect it is only because many golf fans have started to behave more and more like football fans over the years?

So, it is about picking sides (players) and committing to reserve your negative, wind up comments to the players you don't like at any given opportunity, and bigging up the players you do like, and ultimately being completely unobjective in the opinions you share. Golf fans who enjoy winding up perceived "rival" golf fans. Very much like football.

Thus one player only needs to bogey the last hole to be labelled a bottle job, while another could throw away close to half a dozen shots on the last few holes, and be praised for getting himself in the mix a little earlier in the round.
 
Who on here hasn’t won one of your clubs big competitions within the last few years. Do all the other members consider you a bottler. I doubt it. It’s hard to win golf tournaments, at any level. It’s a fine margin and sometimes just bad luck can intervene, such as your ball finishing in somebody else’s pitch mark. Ask Shane.
 
Since 2009 Rory has won 44 times on the main professional tours, and had only 1 year without a win/title (2017)* - and always had more than 5 top 10 finishes during that stretch. Reads like the profile of a bottler to me.....#sarcasm

*Some sources claim 2013 as a winless year, but he won the Emirates Australian Open in that year.
 
Swango1980 said:
Of course. That is why Jack Nicklaus bottled it in 146 Majors :ROFLMAO: .

I believe that is the highest number of Majors any player has ever played in and not won, which would make Nicklaus the biggest bottle job in the history of golf.
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There are always going to be the odd occasion were someone collapses with big leads - Norman in 96 , Rory in 2011 but it happens
 
Voyager EMH said:
Jack Nicklaus talks about losing

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It is a lovely attitude to have, but one that I suspect was much easier to have back in his day.

I reckon losses would be much harder to face in this day and age, with many parts of mainstream media ready to get the knives out at any sign of weakness in the top players. And social media, including sites like the UK's most popular golf forum, having thousands of fans taking great pleasure in your failures, and not just criticizing your golf, but using it to tear apart your character.

I wasn't born when he was at his best, and too young to remember his last Major. But, I get the feeling that golf was a much more gentlemanly, civilised sport back then, that it has become today? Not just golf by the way, I think much have the public have simply evolved over the last 20/30 years to love the humiliation of others in the public arena, even for the most trivial of reasons.
 
Swango1980 said:
I suspect it is only because many golf fans have started to behave more and more like football fans over the years?

So, it is about picking sides (players) and committing to reserve your negative, wind up comments to the players you don't like at any given opportunity, and bigging up the players you do like, and ultimately being completely unobjective in the opinions you share. Golf fans who enjoy winding up perceived "rival" golf fans. Very much like football.

Thus one player only needs to bogey the last hole to be labelled a bottle job, while another could throw away close to half a dozen shots on the last few holes, and be praised for getting himself in the mix a little earlier in the round.
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I blame social media for it, it's not just golf it's happening with everything, football, NFL, politics etc.
 
srixon 1 said:
Who on here hasn’t won one of your clubs big competitions within the last few years. Do all the other members consider you a bottler. I doubt it. It’s hard to win golf tournaments, at any level. It’s a fine margin and sometimes just bad luck can intervene, such as your ball finishing in somebody else’s pitch mark. Ask Shane.
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Me but it's obviously all those high handicap bandits that are the cause of it.

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Swango1980 said:
It is a lovely attitude to have, but one that I suspect was much easier to have back in his day.

I reckon losses would be much harder to face in this day and age, with many parts of mainstream media ready to get the knives out at any sign of weakness in the top players. And social media, including sites like the UK's most popular golf forum, having thousands of fans taking great pleasure in your failures, and not just criticizing your golf, but using it to tear apart your character.

I wasn't born when he was at his best, and too young to remember his last Major. But, I get the feeling that golf was a much more gentlemanly, civilised sport back then, that it has become today? Not just golf by the way, I think much have the public have simply evolved over the last 20/30 years to love the humiliation of others in the public arena, even for the most trivial of reasons.
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You only have to read social media over the last 4 days

It was bad enough before the split but it’s even worse now with the “us and them” attitude from both

When it comes to a major it shouldn’t matter what tour someone plays on but as you said some are now “picking sides” and it’s toxic
 
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