Urgent Statement from PM today

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At least cranky Krankie will have company

Nippy Sweetie is keeping quite a low profile just now imo, May's making quite a good job (with Davidsons help) of estranging just about everyone up here at the moment with her naff slogans and anti-EU cobblers perhaps NS is just letting her get on with it?
 
That would be the strong and stable thing to use, especially for people with very small brains.:o

Beginning to look like PM Mayhem is starting to lose the plot.

Assumes she had a plot to start with.

And with her 180deg flip-flop from Remain to Leave I doubt she has a plan for Brexit either. So why not just paint the EU as the baddies (see 'tough-talking' speech today) so that when we leave with No Deal we know who to blame - and it won't be strict Aunt Theresa.
 
Nippy Sweetie is keeping quite a low profile just now imo, May's making quite a good job (with Davidsons help) of estranging just about everyone up here at the moment with her naff slogans and anti-EU cobblers perhaps NS is just letting her get on with it?

Coalition of Chaos...that'll be May and DExEU?

I'm glad it's not just me who finds her slogans utterly naff, tedious and frankly rather too undergraduate.
 
Nippy Sweetie is keeping quite a low profile just now imo, May's making quite a good job (with Davidsons help) of estranging just about everyone up here at the moment with her naff slogans and anti-EU cobblers perhaps NS is just letting her get on with it?

Nicola just needs to keep quiet and keep breathing as May, Davidson and Corbyn are making superb recruiting officers for the SNP.......tick tock.
 
So effectively what they are saying is that Labour will prioritise the funding of public services like education and the NHS possibly through increases in taxes (plus the Tories have not ruled out raising taxes either) over getting more weapons of mass destruction?

Sounds OK to me.....
If you fail to follow the economics then Diane Abbott will be pleased to explain the detail to you. Regarding Trident, you are aware that the Labour official line is to support it even though their leader doesn't but Hey Ho thsts the way the party works now. Regarding the NHS and Education, do you really believe that Labour will pour in funding so that they will never want for anything!

You do like slipping into debates and outpouring your hatred for all things Tory but you never make it clear what you are suggesting the solution is to all our problems. I am asking you directly who you believe should be the party in Government that will satisfy your discontent? Waiting for your answer!
 
If you fail to follow the economics then Diane Abbott will be pleased to explain the detail to you. Regarding Trident, you are aware that the Labour official line is to support it even though their leader doesn't but Hey Ho thsts the way the party works now. Regarding the NHS and Education, do you really believe that Labour will pour in funding so that they will never want for anything!

You do like slipping into debates and outpouring your hatred for all things Tory but you never make it clear what you are suggesting the solution is to all our problems. I am asking you directly who you believe should be the party in Government that will satisfy your discontent? Waiting for your answer!

Well if you read my post you would see that I said 'Sounds OK to me'. Which may give you a hint of where I may be going. With regards to trident then I honestly do not give a toss as it is just a ploy by certain politicians who need to keep the public in a perpetual state of fear so they can say they are the best to defend your nation. Not sure how many Tridents we have used as opposed to how many teachers we have lost or operations that have been cancelled or increase in people living rough on the streets in the past 20 years.

I have not made my mind up totally yet as I do still have issues with some of Corbyn's shadow cabinet. I am not deluded to think that a Labour government will suddenly make the NHS and education perfect, it isn't about finding the perfect solution but finding a party who best represents how you would like society to be. But if there is a choice between trying to fund public services in a sensible way or mostly leaving them to rot whilst demonising anyone on benefits, then no contest to me.

And if you think the tories are so strong and stable you have a short memory about Brexit and the aftermath. As there is a very strong argument to say that the whole thing was instigated as there was so much infighting and fear of UKIP stealing their thunder. Then the positioning of the key players around during the brexit referendum was mostly motivated by political ambition and manoeuvring for the leadership of the Tory party as opposed to any heartfelt economic and political reasons. Just because we now have Thatcher 2 wearing leather trouser and saying strong and stable a bit doesn't make them any more appealing to be honest.
 
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Oh and here's a graph of national debt that seems to be rising despite the Tories being in power for a few years now. Plus they have not rules out tax increases. Bit hypocritical to call Labour out on that one I think....

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Well put HK, tha absolute mire we are currently in as a country is solely down to the Tories. Labour from 1997-2010 made some duff calls for sure but they never came close to getting the country so split and in such a god awful mess domestically as we are now. Utter embarrassment of a nation presently.
 
If you fail to follow the economics then Diane Abbott will be pleased to explain the detail to you. Regarding Trident, you are aware that the Labour official line is to support it even though their leader doesn't but Hey Ho thsts the way the party works now. Regarding the NHS and Education, do you really believe that Labour will pour in funding so that they will never want for anything!

You do like slipping into debates and outpouring your hatred for all things Tory but you never make it clear what you are suggesting the solution is to all our problems. I am asking you directly who you believe should be the party in Government that will satisfy your discontent? Waiting for your answer!

Whilst Labour were in power my school were able to pay enough teachers to keep class sizes at a manageable level, invest in their CPD and buy sufficient books and other resources for the pupils. The school could also provide education that was not specifically focusing on the core subjects and allow all pupils to find something they enjoyed and could succeed at. There was not massive amounts of money sloshing around, but you could run a school for the benefit of the pupils.

Now we have had to make redundancies, have had to stop the vast majority of teacher training and have to think very carefully about purchasing any resources for the teachers to basically do their job, just so we can balance the budget. Also, even at primary school age, pupils are mostly having to be 'taught to the test' (including utterly ridiculous things like advanced grammar that I can guarantee most adults would struggle with and will never be needed, just because Gove had to do it at his prep school back in the 70s) with little opportunity to enrich their education with non core subjects. And that is before you consider the ever shrinking pot of money to help disadvantaged pupils or those with special educational needs and disabilities, who are increasingly being left to struggle on their own as no school can afford to provide the the additional assistance they need. And believe it or not we are one of the better schools, some are in much worse positions.

So if you give me the choice then yes, I know which option I'd want for the children of this nation. As best of luck once we have regained our independence with competing in a global market place with the standard of education most kids will be getting. I'd consider that a bit more on June 8th rather than who is best to provide bombs and nuclear missiles.
 
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Oh and here's a graph of national debt that seems to be rising despite the Tories being in power for a few years now. Plus they have not rules out tax increases. Bit hypocritical to call Labour out on that one I think....

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I think you are struggling with understanding the difference between the National Deficit and National Debt. The Deficit is considerably lower than when Labour left office, the Debt must be bigger unless you would prefer massive tax increases or cutting public spending dramatically.
 
Whilst Labour were in power my school were able to pay enough teachers to keep class sizes at a manageable level, invest in their CPD and buy sufficient books and other resources for the pupils. The school could also provide education that was not specifically focusing on the core subjects and allow all pupils to find something they enjoyed and could succeed at. There was not massive amounts of money sloshing around, but you could run a school for the benefit of the pupils.

Now we have had to make redundancies, have had to stop the vast majority of teacher training and have to think very carefully about purchasing any resources for the teachers to basically do their job, just so we can balance the budget. Also, even at primary school age, pupils are mostly having to be 'taught to the test' (including utterly ridiculous things like advanced grammar that I can guarantee most adults would struggle with and will never be needed, just because Gove had to do it at his prep school back in the 70s) with little opportunity to enrich their education with non core subjects. And that is before you consider the ever shrinking pot of money to help disadvantaged pupils or those with special educational needs and disabilities, who are increasingly being left to struggle on their own as no school can afford to provide the the additional assistance they need. And believe it or not we are one of the better schools, some are in much worse positions.

So if you give me the choice then yes, I know which option I'd want for the children of this nation. As best of luck once we have regained our independence with competing in a global market place with the standard of education most kids will be getting. I'd consider that a bit more on June 8th rather than who is best to provide bombs and nuclear missiles.

You show a graph of rising national debt then decry the lack of spending and cut backs...

For me, the only answer is raise taxes, both on individuals and corporations.
 
Well put HK, tha absolute mire we are currently in as a country is solely down to the Tories. Labour from 1997-2010 made some duff calls for sure but they never came close to getting the country so split and in such a god awful mess domestically as we are now. Utter embarrassment of a nation presently.

Remind me which party increased the national debt massively in those years. Remind me which party sold off all our gold. Remind which party took us into Iraq. Remind me which party opened our door to unlimited immigration from the new EU countries when every other EU country put a cap on it.

Your rose red tinted spectacles are blinkering you from some truths...
 
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