Urgent Statement from PM today

[SocketRocket]

And to think the Brexiters moan about the remainers not understanding what a democracy is...

I'm a bit confused what it is! I thought it was where the majority vote is what people accept as the National policy.

Oh! Edit:

 

[SocketRocket]

Sounds like they all have a 'Mandate' I think Delc has one as well!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

It is a smokescreen but a hopelessy thin see through smokescreen. Maybe a little honesty wouldn't go amiss as a leader.

She's playing the cards to win herself more power, that's politics and they're all at it on all sides but her word is worth nowt, sneaked into power last year by keeping her head down, power has now gone to her head.

She can't even tell the media in front of No 10 what she's doing without reading words written by someone else.

So hope this all backfires on her. Heading for a one party state soon, unhealthy.

Well said, May has been played for a fool by the right wing section of her Tory party.
This has nothing to do with a united Britain and everything to do with keeping half of a political party in power.
Imagine if Liam Fox was leader and had acted as May has just done......the country would be up in arms.

 

[Old Skier]

And to think the Brexiters moan about the remainers not understanding what a democracy is...

Then the remainers now have been given a chance to turn it all on its head. They were the ones that argued that leaveing the EU was far to important an issue for the electorate to decide and should be left in the hands of MPs now it looks like all the party's MPs think the election is a good idea and are going to vote in favour and some of the electorate appear to be changing their stance and don't like MPs making decisions.

Could it be the same people who said May didn't have a mandate to be PM and should hold an election.

 

[SocketRocket]

Well said, May has been played for a fool by the right wing section of her Tory party.
This has nothing to do with a united Britain and everything to do with keeping half of a political party in power.
Imagine if Liam Fox was leader and had acted as May has just done......the country would be up in arms.

Break out the deodorant, the thought of the great unwashed with their arms up

 

[Old Skier]

Well said, May has been played for a fool by the right wing section of her Tory party.
This has nothing to do with a united Britain and everything to do with keeping half of a political party in power.
Imagine if Liam Fox was leader and had acted as May has just done......the country would be up in arms.

Its politics and every party does everything for their benefit as you know to well if you live in Scotland.

 

[MegaSteve]

Keep fighting DelC! Hope your lot take a good few seats back off Cons. LD Brexit stance is bound to help win votes I think. LDs were right about Iraq when no-one listended and they're right about Brexit too. We need people like Vince Cable and David Laws, good politicians, around again.

The last thing 'we' need is Vince the Cable anywhere near government... He's shafted 'the people' already why do 'we' need him or the Libdems, in general, in Westminster? When in coalition they proved to be a TOTAL embarrassment...

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

So Prime Minister Theresa May tells us the need for a GE is because the country is coming together (it's not) yet parliament remains divided - frustrating Brexit - it's called opposition dear PM

And then I listen to the Home Secretary Amber Rudd this morning tell us the need for the GE is because it's timing - nothing much will be done until after the coming French elections and can't have us having a GE soon after the 2yr clock has stopped ticking. But dear HS - these things have been known - they are not new. Before Art50 was triggered there was strong suggestions being made that triggering should be left until September 2017 to get the French and German elections out of the way - but No - May was adamant about end March for Art50.

They are both talking farm manure.

Bottom line is that May wants to wipe out opposition to Brexit and get a vote in while economic things seem OK; before the economy starts to struggle and public services really start to fall apart; and before the deal with the EU will be seen to be as difficult and damaging as it may well be.

And the DM says - "Crush the Saboteurs" - what the hell is THAT about - you want to bring the country together then you don't crush opposition to Brexit. Who do the DM want to crush - Me? Besides what does the DM think is being sabotaged? What? This DM rant is completely unfounded fury to ignite passions and emotions in Leave voters against those of us who opposed Brexit - as if WE who oppose Brexit will be the responsible for the difficult and poor deal that we negotiate with the EU? But we don't HAVE a deal yet. The DM is appealing to emotions on the unstated premis that there will be a poor deal. But it might actually be a good deal - so what is the DM on about? Is this how Theresa May thinks the country is coming together. It is disgusting.

What a mess.

 

[Hacker Khan]

The last thing 'we' need is Vince the Cable anywhere near government... He's shafted 'the people' already why do 'we' need him or the Libdems, in general, in Westminster? When in coalition they proved to be a TOTAL embarrassment...

Or they kept the more right wing of the Tory party in check to prevent them unleashing very socially divisive policies around benefits and education that unfairly target certain sections of the population (mostly non Tory voters) and generally running the public sector into the ground. Like they are doing now. IMHO

 

[Hacker Khan]

Then the remainers now have been given a chance to turn it all on its head. They were the ones that argued that leaveing the EU was far to important an issue for the electorate to decide and should be left in the hands of MPs now it looks like all the party's MPs think the election is a good idea and are going to vote in favour and some of the electorate appear to be changing their stance and don't like MPs making decisions.

Could it be the same people who said May didn't have a mandate to be PM and should hold an election.

Am liking your logic there. Equating the ability of MPs to vote if they want Brexit or not with MPs voting for a general election. Makes complete sense, in a 3-2-1 dusty bin kind of way.

 

[MegaSteve]

Or they kept the more right wing of the Tory party in check to prevent them unleashing very socially divisive policies around benefits and education that unfairly target certain sections of the population (mostly non Tory voters) and generally running the public sector into the ground. Like they are doing now. IMHO

On key points, within their own election mandate, they turned their backs on the folk that voted for them...

And, yes I agree, they probably delayed 'matters' getting a whole lot worse...

 

[Deleted member 1147]

On key points, within their own election mandate, they turned their backs on the folk that voted for them...

And, yes I agree, they probably delayed 'matters' getting a whole lot worse...

They weren't in a position to carry out their own manifesto a they weren't the ruling party, merely a small part of the coalition.
My fear is that by holding them against the manifesto pledges rather than what they prevented the Tories from doing they have been cast down to the bottom of the pile.
Hopefully, now the Tories have gone further and further right since the last election, some old LD voters will return and restore them to a higher tier.

 

[MegaSteve]

They weren't in a position to carry out their own manifesto a they weren't the ruling party, merely a small part of the coalition.
My fear is that by holding them against the manifesto pledges rather than what they prevented the Tories from doing they have been cast down to the bottom of the pile.
Hopefully, now the Tories have gone further and further right since the last election, some old LD voters will return and restore them to a higher tier.

They were in a position to put up a better 'fight' than they did...

 

[Deleted member 16999]

They weren't in a position to carry out their own manifesto a they weren't the ruling party, merely a small part of the coalition.
My fear is that by holding them against the manifesto pledges rather than what they prevented the Tories from doing they have been cast down to the bottom of the pile.
Hopefully, now the Tories have gone further and further right since the last election, some old LD voters will return and restore them to a higher tier.

They sold out for a chance at power, did they honestly believe the tories would not blame them and cut them lose when it came to the following GE

 

[Old Skier]

Am liking your logic there. Equating the ability of MPs to vote if they want Brexit or not with MPs voting for a general election. Makes complete sense, in a 3-2-1 dusty bin kind of way.

Just keeping it in line with all the posts on the thread.

 

[IanM]

Huge grumbles on these pages and non Tory and Remain Lobbies calling May an "unelected PM".....

Huge grumbles by exactly the same folk when she does.

Nice.


As I understand it, she is standing against a tramp who calls HAMAS and Hezbollah "his friends" (and his previous with the IRA isn't pleasant) and a baby faced wombat currently making a fool of himself for his religion based homophobia

...I guess making it a Brexit/Remain Referendum re-run is how they'll have to play it. Otherwise it'll be a bloodbath

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Huge grumbles on these pages and non Tory and Remain Lobbies calling May an "unelected PM".....

Huge grumbles by exactly the same folk when she does.

Nice.


As I understand it, she is standing against a tramp who calls HAMAS and Hezbollah "his friends" (and his previous with the IRA isn't pleasant) and a baby faced wombat currently making a fool of himself for his religion based homophobia

...I guess making it a Brexit/Remain Referendum re-run is how they'll have to play it. Otherwise it'll be a bloodbath

I voted to leave the EU and cannot see any reason for her to call the GE, she has the mandate and a majority, it's ok being petty and name calling, but what if she's made a bad call, what if she gets it wrong. Who are you going to blame or insult then?

 

[IanM]

I voted to leave the EU and cannot see any reason for her to call the GE, she has the mandate and a majority, it's ok being petty and name calling, but what if she's made a bad call, what if she gets it wrong. Who are you going to blame or insult then?

I also cannot see any reason to call a GE - other than to give the PM the mandate her detractors say she doesn't have. I also think it is a bad call.... why take the risk. She's cleary been told she's so far ahead in the Polls its ok. BUT a rerun of the Referendum is much closer than a Tory/Labour choice.

As for name calling..... ok, my visual impressions of those two is subjective on my part, but the quotes are there for all to see....and that's the scary bit

 

[ger147]

Confirmation that Osborne is quitting as an MP at the upcoming GE. So every cloud etc.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Best news so far :whoo: