Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44496427
Sir Christopher the Chop! Unbelievable that he could veto this.
Sir Christopher the Chop! Unbelievable that he could veto this.
Upskirting bill fails because of one chop!
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Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
I take it he wants to retire early.....
Cos he ain't getting re-elected next time round....
Cos he ain't getting re-elected next time round....
Rooter
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How and why on earth would he object it??!! absolute joke.
Don't know why he did it, haven't seen him quoted anywhere. However, does it need a law specific to this? Surely we should have one that covers this under some sexual offence act?
Would the bill cover other forms of sexual offence or was it purely for upskirting? Perhaps he objected in order for the bill to be widened and cover other, equally new forms of offences? The bill may have good intentions but currently be badly worded.
I hope it is this as otherwise the man has no excuse.
In case anyone thinks otherwise I agree that anyone doing this should feel the full force of the law, it is a dreadful thing to do.
Would the bill cover other forms of sexual offence or was it purely for upskirting? Perhaps he objected in order for the bill to be widened and cover other, equally new forms of offences? The bill may have good intentions but currently be badly worded.
I hope it is this as otherwise the man has no excuse.
In case anyone thinks otherwise I agree that anyone doing this should feel the full force of the law, it is a dreadful thing to do.
Check the photo's on his phone, that might highlight something......
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
One suggestion is that he is trained lawyer I think, so he may think it is bad legislation and it is better to block this and come back with a better one. Or he could just be an old out of touch pervert who sees nothing wrong with the practice. I'm sure we'll find out soon.
If you read the full article in the link it answers all your questions, which is why Scotland created a law against it, as it wasn't covered, as it's not in England.
I did read it but don't think it did answer them. It partly answered the odd one but not clearly, hence the questions.
Just 're read it. Think the BBC must have updated the original post as it now does answer those questions.
Seems he was quite right to object, with the intention of bringing it back in better form.
Seems he was quite right to object, with the intention of bringing it back in better form.
Really?
Q/ However, does it need a law specific to this?
A/ Yes, as Scotland realised.
Q/ Surely we should have one that covers this under some sexual offence act?
A/ No we don’t, as the article explains, hence the bill.
Q/ Would the bill cover other forms of sexual offence or was it purely for upskirting?
A/ Purely for upskirting as other areas are already covered.
Can’t see any other questions in your post?
I’ve only read 1 report, hence my response.
I read it when the story first broke. There was little detail at that point. Since that point the journo's filled in the gaps, answering the questions. The BBC do that with breaking stories.
Wilson
Head Pro
That’s the crux of what I’ve read, apparently there is a group of MP’s who attend the Friday session, (always poorly attended apparently....), to object to any legislation which they believe hasn’t been discussed properly, or is poorly written.
There is a thread on a hockey forum I frequent, and no-one is talking about the MP as one poster said upskirting shouldn’t be illegal as it’s just public space.....
larmen
Head Pro
Without going into his motivation, how can a single MP stop it anyway? Or is 'objecting' basically the same like a US senator talking for hours so it can't get voted on?
Think it is something to do with private members bills only. Better short and sweet than talking for hours for the sake of it.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
If it was successful getting into law then such as the Sun, Star, Express, Mirror and Mail would have to stop publishing pictures of ladies and Scots lads in kilts unintentionally showing more than they might wish when getting out of taxis, sitting cross legged etc - one of the staple 'whoooargh' types of photograph beloved by these papers and their readers. So maybe he opposed the legislation for protection of 'freedom of the press' reasons - maybe.
Liverbirdie
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Wilson
Head Pro
This MP has a history of doing these too.Its called a "filibuster" - thats a word to conjure with.......
backwoodsman
Tour Winner
Has anyone on here read the actual private members bill thats been blocked? No? Thought not - l havent either ...
However it easy to understand that suggested legislation frequently a) won't achieve what it is intended to do, or b) will have unintended consequences or ç) both. The system needs the ability to address this. As far as I've read, Chope has not killed this off, but has merely ensured that it gets more proper consideration.
I know nothing about the man but he's been an MP for 20 years or so. So l doubt he would be unaware of the likely public reaction to him objecting. Yet he still did so. I find that interesting rather than reprehensible.
But then again, since when has the voice of reason ever had its day ...
However it easy to understand that suggested legislation frequently a) won't achieve what it is intended to do, or b) will have unintended consequences or ç) both. The system needs the ability to address this. As far as I've read, Chope has not killed this off, but has merely ensured that it gets more proper consideration.
I know nothing about the man but he's been an MP for 20 years or so. So l doubt he would be unaware of the likely public reaction to him objecting. Yet he still did so. I find that interesting rather than reprehensible.
But then again, since when has the voice of reason ever had its day ...
FairwayDodger
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He’s not the voice of reason, a quick google will show you what a scum bag he is.
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