Leereed
Head Pro
Thanks everybody it was just a knock between us.If I was in a comp I would keep my mouth shut And let them hack away.It was just that they were saying you could not deem it unplayable and I said you could from anywhere if you want.
Unplayable rule
- Thread starter Leereed
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chrisd
Major Champion
We might see a change later this year
Go on you can tell us we won't tell anyone else!
Colin L
Tour Winner
We might see a change later this year
That would be good. It's one of the few situations (only situation?) where you can get totally stuck and the rules don't give you a way out.
Always worth carrying a copy of the rule in the bag. Even if you can't find the right ruling on the course you can point it out to the PP's in the bar after. They were clearly wrong
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guest100718
Guest
unplayable is a pretty basic rule that everyone should know.
Agreed but it would appear not in the OP
backwoodsman
Tour Winner
We might see a change later this year
Hopefully something similar to 26/2b (i) ?? (which, for water hazards, allows the penalty option of dropping where "last shot outside" was played). Now that would be nice and could save me quite a few hacks.
rulefan
Tour Winner
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SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
that one - along with 'you cannot declare a ball lost' and 'you can take stroke and distance at any point in time under any circumstance'
bobmac
Major Champion
You can if you say ''That's lost, I'll hit another one''
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Of course - except that I'd say that the very fact of hitting another ball without declaring it as a provisional is the act that makes it lost. Your form of words (as you have stated) are, in the context of the rules, irrelevant.
Colin L
Tour Winner
Let's be accurate, Bob, for the sake of those who learn from the forum. Whatever words you use, just saying them does not make a ball lost.
freddielong
Tour Winner
The act of replacing the ball in play (ie hitting another ball, without declaring it a provisional) is makes it lost, not the words themselves.
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guest100718
Guest
Meaningless words.
bobmac
Major Champion
So if I'm playing in the same group as you and I hit one in the rubbish and I say to you ''that's lost, I'll hit another one'',
you wouldn't understand what I meant?
rulie
Head Pro
Yes, I would understand that you were putting another ball into play under penalty of stroke and distance, ie, it would not be a provisional.
freddielong
Tour Winner
The words that would mean anything in that situation would be " I am hitting a provisional "
Leereed
Head Pro
I will admit I dont know all the correct rules but I know more than the people I play with who have played for a hell of a lot longer than me.
And the amount of times they will say I will reload/hit another and I tell them you do know thats the ball in play don't you.
All I get is Well you know what I ment its a provisional
And the amount of times they will say I will reload/hit another and I tell them you do know thats the ball in play don't you.
All I get is Well you know what I ment its a provisional
bobmac
Major Champion
That's naughty of them, they should make it clear
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Next time in a friendly knock just let your PP hit a provisional ball without him declaring it as a provisional and then tell him that it's now his ball in play and that he cannot play his original without penalty
