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Tour de France

Imurg said:
So it's not really a race then is it....????

If there's a crash in F1 then you're out (or a lap or 2 down), if you trip during a 10k running race the rest of the runners don't wait for you at the next bend, these days a jockey can't get back on his horse once he's fallen off.........
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It's the same time for each bunch of riders, so if a group of 50 are ahead of another group of 50 by 1 minutes then they get the minute advantage. It's mainly for safety reasons, it can take a few minutes for a large group to cross the line, if every second was counted then there'd be carnage with everyone trying to push through on a narrow road.
 
colint said:
It's the same time for each bunch of riders, so if a group of 50 are ahead of another group of 50 by 1 minutes then they get the minute advantage. It's mainly for safety reasons, it can take a few minutes for a large group to cross the line, if every second was counted then there'd be carnage with everyone trying to push through on a narrow road.
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Sooo - there's too many of them.
Or they need a wider track...

So if everyone was in the same group - ie no gaps from the guy who "wins" the stage to the guy bringing up the rear - they all get the same time even though there could be several minutes between first and last......

And once you've got a lead you can actually finish behind everyone else as long as you're in the same group as your challengers...

Wierd......
 
Imurg said:
Sooo - there's too many of them.
Or they need a wider track...

So if everyone was in the same group - ie no gaps from the guy who "wins" the stage to the guy bringing up the rear - they all get the same time even though there could be several minutes between first and last......

And once you've got a lead you can actually finish behind everyone else as long as you're in the same group as your challengers...

Wierd......
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Basically yes, everyone finishes together, everyone gets the same time. But that only happens in about 4 of the 21 stages, and there'll be a sprint to win that actual stage. You get points for winning th sprint for a seperate competition within the race, but this is starting to feel like explaining immovable obstructions to a none golfer :-)
 
Don't forget the other separate competition = King of the Mountains. In summary (at least for me) there's actually 4 races going on.

King of the Mountains = polka dot jersey, riders collect points for winning an intermediate climb and for placing in designated climbing stages

Points race (for the sprinters mainly) = green jersey, riders collect points for winning intermediate sprints usually around halfway in the stage and then for winning the designated sprinting stages.

General classification = yellow jersey, the rider with the best (lowest) overall time regardless of whether he has picked up any points in any of the other categories.

Young rider = white jersey, the rider with the best overall time under 25 years of age again regardless of points in the other categories.

During time trials Tony Martin would have worn a team jersey with the colours of the UCI signifying that he is world champion in that discipline but has withdrawn from this years event. Likewise in the general road stages Mark Cavendish is world champion and wears a white jersey with team sponsorship (Team SKY) and the UCI bands across his chest.
 
Funny sport cycling:

How about seperate competitions for

Father with child seated up to 4 years old

Fastest time trial for cycling on pavement stopping at traffic lights

Fastest time trial for cycling on pavement not stopping for anything

Points for not scratching paintwork of cars parked

Deduction of points for dismounting at pelican crossing extra deduction for actually pressing the button

Style points for weaving in and out of stationary traffic

Maybe there are others you can think of
 
chrisd said:
Funny sport cycling:

How about seperate competitions for

Father with child seated up to 4 years old

Fastest time trial for cycling on pavement stopping at traffic lights

Fastest time trial for cycling on pavement not stopping for anything

Points for not scratching paintwork of cars parked

Deduction of points for dismounting at pelican crossing extra deduction for actually pressing the button

Style points for weaving in and out of stationary traffic

Maybe there are others you can think of
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The cyclist who can get furthest through the town centre, at night, without being spotted.
 
Anybody going to be watching Bradley cycle to victory tomorrow?

Im recording it and will watch after the Open, awesome achievement!:cheers:
 
Scottjd1 said:
Anybody going to be watching Bradley cycle to victory tomorrow?

Im recording it and will watch after the Open, awesome achievement!:cheers:
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Yeh watched the whole tour,he does come across abit arrogant and ive witnessed it in person,but he has looked so strong through-out the tour....

But...i think Froome would have pushed him if he was with another team,but im made up for Bradley and might try and get a few mile with him in winter when he's out riding as ive seen him couple times as im not far from him.....after that i may need an extra lung n say goodbye:p
 
Unless he falls off and injures himself to the point where he can't carry on which is basically unlikely mutton chop has won the Tour and there isn't really much to watch on that front tomorrow.

The big one for me in the afternoon is Cav sprinting in Paris. I'm more interested in that. Overall though a great result for British cycling and a good marker for the Olympic road race next week.
 
Fantastic achievment, be great to see Cav pick up another win in Paris. Wiggo can come across as a bit arrogant sometimes I agree, but it's refreshing to hear a British athlete say "I'm here to win", and then actually follow it through. He knew he was good enough and knew he's put the work in. One of the greatest ever British sporting achievments imho
 
I've watched it from start to finish today. I'm also looking for Sky to lead out Cav for the sprint this afternoon. I always enjoy the mountain stages best as you get to see just what these guys are made of (and the scenery is top notch too).
 
Imurg said:
Sooo - there's too many of them.
Or they need a wider track...

So if everyone was in the same group - ie no gaps from the guy who "wins" the stage to the guy bringing up the rear - they all get the same time even though there could be several minutes between first and last......

And once you've got a lead you can actually finish behind everyone else as long as you're in the same group as your challengers...

Wierd......
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colint said:
Basically yes, everyone finishes together, everyone gets the same time. But that only happens in about 4 of the 21 stages, and there'll be a sprint to win that actual stage. You get points for winning th sprint for a seperate competition within the race, but this is starting to feel like explaining immovable obstructions to a none golfer :-)
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I'm with Imurg on this, was watching Sky News coverage and hoping they would explain what he needs to do to win, but they are saying its pretty much over:confused: unless a disaster......so you can lose....but still win:confused::confused:
What determines a group? a yard apart? a bike lenght, 10 yards? and who monitors a group?
The sprint at the end is pointless if no-one gets separated from the group?
Just trying to understand it.....


P.S immoveable obstructions; its an obstruction and immovable, could it be any simpler
 
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brilliant to see Wiggins in yellow leading out the sprint train for Cavendish to win in Paris then follow him over the line to win the Tour - awesome effort from Wiggins, Froome, Cavendish and all of team Sky
 
Switched over from the golf just in time to see wiggo lead out cav. Great finish to a good tour. Awesome. Love that.

Now, come on g mac.
 
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