Time for a whinge.

This has happened to me several times. I have two ways of dealing with it.
1. Be right up their backsides as much as possible, hitting when they are just out of range so they can hear the ball land. I also push my trolley along the loudest part of the path. Make them uncomfortable and they may let you through.

or

2. Play 2 balls and just relax - it's better than working.
As long as you don't get caught up yourself!
 
Being waved through is a thing of the past it would seem. I got stuck behind 4 women other day and ended up skipping holes as i could tell they wouldnt wave me through. I have never to this day be on my own or in a four ball ever been waved through by a group of women
 
I'd have jumped to the next tee, finish my round and then report them to the club. Everywhere I play there are signs saying 'avoid slow play' so think this stands out. unless the commitee are also coffin dodgers they would understand

+1

I think that not letting people through as soon as you can (and it makes sense to) is one of the worst ettiquete offences you can commit and should be way more strictly dealt with by clubs.

Without wanting to offend an entire nation of golfers (as it is only a small minority of players that do it) this has been the only negative of golf over here for me since I hopped the pond. I'm not saying that everyone does it, far. far from it, but it definitely happens to me way more over here than where Im from or in the US.

It can really put a huge dampner on a round, and sometimes completely ruin a day. Some people over here seem to get almost offended when they have to let someone through, like its damaging to their ego or something.

Rant over/

ps. I love English people and English golf way more than the American equivalents. Even though you probably don't want my love anymore... :(
 
As others have said, ask to play through and if they refuse then report them to the committee. When they refuse just walk past them and skip your tee shot and play one from where your tee shot would of been (fairway obviously ;) ) then carry on from there. They will have to wait for you for a shot now to clear the green then your away.

You have to ask but if they refuse then at least youve made the effort and given them a chance to show etiquette. The old gits should know better to be fair, but you do get some who think they own the place and it's their god given right to not let people through. To**ers.
 
Reminds me of a day nearly 20 years ago before I was a member. Glorious sunshine, day off from work specially to play golf. Expensive green fee at local private course. On my tod on the first tee with the course empty in front of me. Then a ladies four ball seems to arrive from nowhere and relish politely but firmly informing me I have no standing. Of course I had no choice but to let them go and by the time they were out of range another 2 or 3 groups had arrived on the tee. I managed to fit myself between them somehow and crawled round. Still bitter?...you bet.
 
I'd of asked to join them, very often see 5 balls here on none comp days.

Failing that, can I come through.

Then failing that, head across country and start again
 
I'd have jumped to the next tee, finish my round and then report them to the club. Everywhere I play there are signs saying 'avoid slow play' so think this stands out. unless the commitee are also coffin dodgers they would understand

+1

I think that not letting people through as soon as you can (and it makes sense to) is one of the worst ettiquete offences you can commit and should be way more strictly dealt with by clubs.

Without wanting to offend an entire nation of golfers (as it is only a small minority of players that do it) this has been the only negative of golf over here for me since I hopped the pond. I'm not saying that everyone does it, far. far from it, but it definitely happens to me way more over here than where Im from or in the US.

It can really put a huge dampner on a round, and sometimes completely ruin a day. Some people over here seem to get almost offended when they have to let someone through, like its damaging to their ego or something.

Rant over/

ps. I love English people and English golf way more than the American equivalents. Even though you probably don't want my love anymore... :(


Just to make you aware that the BRITISH ISLES, consists of countries other than England, I know a lot of people fail to grasp this however that is how it is!

This may help you understand the make up of the BRITISH ISLES!

britain-map.gif


Part of that "other" island to the left of Britain is also classed as Britain, however I'm equally sure that they don't wish to be classed as English either!

The forum is not an English thing either!
 
There are 2 problems here as I see it.
1. Some people simply don't know the rule has changed about single players having no standing.

2.What to do when calling someone through is I believe a problem with alot of people.
If you lose your ball on a short par 4 and you call someone through, you have to wait until they have finished the hole before you can play another shot.
So you wait till they've hit their tee shots, walk down, second shots, chips, putts and finally 10-15 mins later, you can play your second.
That contributes to people thinking sod that, they can wait a few minutes longer.
 
ps. I love English people and English golf way more than the American equivalents. Even though you probably don't want my love anymore... :(

Just to make you aware that the BRITISH ISLES, consists of countries other than England, I know a lot of people fail to grasp this however that is how it is!

britain-map.gif


This may help you understand the make up of the BRITISH ISLES!

Part of that "other" island to the left of Britain is also classed as Britain, however I'm equally sure that they don't wish to be classed as English either!

The forum is not an English thing either!

The dark green bit is where the happy English people live :)

Red is for anger (and hair colour) :p

There's nowt wrong with the English. In fact I don't think the original poster mentioned Scotland at all, or the British Isles.

Is it only Scottish that don't let people play through Craw? You seem to have taken it personally :D
 
I do agree with all the comments about the lack of etiquette but the only thing I disagree with is that it's not exclusively old people who are guilty. I am 58 and always am aware as are my playing partners when to do the right thing. It is young, old, men and women who are guilty and I agree with Bob in that many do not realise that the standing on the course of a single player has changed recently

Chris
 
Just to make you aware that the BRITISH ISLES, consists of countries other than England, I know a lot of people fail to grasp this however that is how it is!

This may help you understand the make up of the BRITISH ISLES!

britain-map.gif


Part of that "other" island to the left of Britain is also classed as Britain, however I'm equally sure that they don't wish to be classed as English either!

The forum is not an English thing either!

lordy lord - a little touchy about our nationality, aren't we?...
perhaps our friend has only experienced golf in England.... and not sampled golf in Scotland, Wales & Ireland and THAT's why England is ref'd in his post.

The biggest problem with the Scots, Irish and Welsh (and I say this as a proud Scotsman) is that we can be TOO feckin' Scottish, TOO feckin' Irish & TOO feckin' Welsh - where our national identity becomes all-consuming.....
Also - I hope that you would have been as quick to point out the error of his ways, with regard to the British Isles, had our friendly poster spouted forth on his love of Scottish/Irish/Welsh golf.

Somehow I think not......
 
The biggest problem with the Scots, Irish and Welsh (and I say this as a proud Scotsman) is that we can be TOO feckin' Scottish, TOO feckin' Irish & TOO feckin' Welsh - where our national identity becomes all-consuming.....
Also - I hope that you would have been as quick to point out the error of his ways, with regard to the British Isles, had our friendly poster spouted forth on his love of Scottish/Irish/Welsh golf.

Somehow I think not......

Thank you D2D. Well said.
 
The biggest problem with the Scots, Irish and Welsh (and I say this as a proud Scotsman) is that we can be TOO feckin' Scottish, TOO feckin' Irish & TOO feckin' Welsh - where our national identity becomes all-consuming.....
Also - I hope that you would have been as quick to point out the error of his ways, with regard to the British Isles, had our friendly poster spouted forth on his love of Scottish/Irish/Welsh golf.

Somehow I think not......

Thank you D2D. Well said.

+1.
 
Some people over here seem to get almost offended when they have to let someone through, like its damaging to their ego or something.

i also subscribe to this opinion



(wasnt there a post recently where someone really wasnt happy about it being banded around somebody saying they were slow?)


as a relatively quick player having been stuck behind many a group, the times i/we asked politely "do you mind if i/we play through" a higher percentage of time it seems to get their backs up & you get a very negative reply & sometimes mildly abusive

i can only think that that kind of reply is down to the people in the group in front, feeling anger at the suggestion of slow play from them.



as far as im concerned slow play really isnt the problem ...its poor etiquette not letting ppl through

fair enough if ppl take more time over their shots than others nothing wrong, but then just remember you'll need to either be quicker or are going to have to let ppl through on a regular basis, get that mind set that "yes im a slower player & i dont mind letting ppl through"

or they will eventually get a bad reputation for holding play up around the entire club

the other week (as a 2 & 3 ball we later in the round made a 5 at the 9th as they got fed up waiting as they werent let through) a few holes later we had still had the group of 4 in front and a 2 ball coming up behind we werent slow and was still up behind the 4 , we let the 2 through immediately as they got on the tee while we were on the green (par 3) and called them up

the 4 in front then proceeded not to let that 2 through either

i also think when ppl join a club they should have a meeting with the other new members in a group and officals of the club (secratary,captain,pro etc) and be told whats expected of them (etiquette wise and whats unacceptable) by someone ppl from the club (some clubs may do this! back when i first joined it was just a sheet of paper with the info on) - which im sure most ppl dont even bother reading or take notice of

as some ppl just arent aware or ever known proper etiquette and this would be a good introduction and surely improve things for the future of the club
 
I'd have jumped to the next tee, finish my round and then report them to the club. Everywhere I play there are signs saying 'avoid slow play' so think this stands out. unless the commitee are also coffin dodgers they would understand

+1

I think that not letting people through as soon as you can (and it makes sense to) is one of the worst ettiquete offences you can commit and should be way more strictly dealt with by clubs.

Without wanting to offend an entire nation of golfers (as it is only a small minority of players that do it) this has been the only negative of golf over here for me since I hopped the pond. I'm not saying that everyone does it, far. far from it, but it definitely happens to me way more over here than where Im from or in the US.

It can really put a huge dampner on a round, and sometimes completely ruin a day. Some people over here seem to get almost offended when they have to let someone through, like its damaging to their ego or something.

Rant over/

ps. I love English people and English golf way more than the American equivalents. Even though you probably don't want my love anymore... :(


Just to make you aware that the BRITISH ISLES, consists of countries other than England, I know a lot of people fail to grasp this however that is how it is!

This may help you understand the make up of the BRITISH ISLES!

britain-map.gif


Part of that "other" island to the left of Britain is also classed as Britain, however I'm equally sure that they don't wish to be classed as English either!

The forum is not an English thing either!

One small further point to Craw - part of that other island to the left is not actually classed as Britain - it is classed as within the UK though.
 
A slightly different slant to this post. On Sunday i was playing in a singles Knock Out and we where just in front of a 3 ball who played extremely quickly for most of the round. Just after we had teed off on the 18th (all square) the club captain who was part of the 3 ball asked how it was going, told him the score and off we went.

Later in the clubhouse the CC came over and said that his 3 ball hadn't looked for one ball all day and congratulated us on how quickly we had played especially as the game was so tight, (although neither of us played well) Apparently the following group of 3 where almost 3 holes behind.

But should we have called through the 3 ball, it was only a roll up?
 
I'd have jumped to the next tee, finish my round and then report them to the club. Everywhere I play there are signs saying 'avoid slow play' so think this stands out. unless the commitee are also coffin dodgers they would understand

+1

I think that not letting people through as soon as you can (and it makes sense to) is one of the worst ettiquete offences you can commit and should be way more strictly dealt with by clubs.

Without wanting to offend an entire nation of golfers (as it is only a small minority of players that do it) this has been the only negative of golf over here for me since I hopped the pond. I'm not saying that everyone does it, far. far from it, but it definitely happens to me way more over here than where Im from or in the US.

It can really put a huge dampner on a round, and sometimes completely ruin a day. Some people over here seem to get almost offended when they have to let someone through, like its damaging to their ego or something.

Rant over/

ps. I love English people and English golf way more than the American equivalents. Even though you probably don't want my love anymore... :(


Just to make you aware that the BRITISH ISLES, consists of countries other than England, I know a lot of people fail to grasp this however that is how it is!

This may help you understand the make up of the BRITISH ISLES!

britain-map.gif


Part of that "other" island to the left of Britain is also classed as Britain, however I'm equally sure that they don't wish to be classed as English either!

The forum is not an English thing either!

I'm sorry but where did I make any mention of the BRITISH ISLES in my post?

The reason why I said ENGLISH is because I was making my brash generalisation about ENGLISH golfers only... (a small minority of them ;) )

I have played a fair bit of golf in Scotland and Northern Ireland (though not Wales yet) and have never had any problems with not being let through, hence why I never mentioned them... (To be fair though, the courses I have played - Old Course, KingB, Loch Lomond, County Down, Portrush etc. - were probably full of tourists the days I played them, so making any sort of sweeping generalisation about another nationality of golfers would have been even more ridiculous!)

I know that you were not able to grasp this from my first post, but hopefully I have cleared it up for you. I can see why you posted that to be fair as you probably assumed I was just a "stupid American" who needs a geography lesson, but I can assure you that I am neither stupid, nor American.
 
Well to add more fuel to the fire, went out again today and ended up catching up with a 2 ball halfway round and had to wait on the 9th, 10th and 11th and i thought to myself "here we go again" but instead of letting me through they practiclly ran to take their shots and rushed their game. Luckily the 2 ball that was behind me seemed to have a nightmare on the 11th so i got abit of a gap and let the 2 ball infront get a hole or so infront of me.

I just can't understand why people would rush their game so much when it would be so much easier to let the people behind play through.

Nevermind though, had a nice day as it was nice and sunny all day and even got a sweat on with just a t-shirt on instead of hundresds of layers of thermals and waterproofs!
 
When our course was very busy on Saturday's during the winter two years ago, the committee introduced a rule that not only singles but also two balls had no standing. It worked really well as two balls joined up with other two balls and more golfers got round before it got dark.

Doesn't anyone else find it a pain when the course is full of 3 and 4 balls, and then suddenly some two balls appear and have to be let through by everyone. When the course is that busy they should join up, assuming they are not playing a Club match. Clubs with two tee starts can specify who goes off which tee at a certain time, and then has priority.

Personally i would have a problem with a single playing on a Saturday morning, expecting to be let through the whole field. Glad our committee decided singles have no standing.

When the course is quiet during the week or in the evening i wouldn't have a problem letting a single through, but the only time it has happened we have joined up. Golf should be sociable.
 
Being waved through is a thing of the past it would seem. I got stuck behind 4 women other day and ended up skipping holes as i could tell they wouldnt wave me through. I have never to this day be on my own or in a four ball ever been waved through by a group of women

I can honestly say that I have been waved through by our Lady captain and her vice - maybe they just wanted too check out me from the rear ;)
 
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