Tiger to be DQ'd?

I think he'll be DQ'd.

What's got my goat at the minute is the whole rules thing on tour, especially the yanks tour.

You have Tiger who, in all likelyhood will be DQ'd for an incorrect drop and subsequently signing for a wrong score. A 14 year old boy being docked a shot for slow play.................... Yet V.J Singh is allowed to go on his merry way after admitting using a banned substance.

Very poor show IMHO.
 
Gareth said:
I think he'll be DQ'd.

What's got my goat at the minute is the whole rules thing on tour, especially the yanks tour.

You have Tiger who, in all likelyhood will be DQ'd for an incorrect drop and subsequently signing for a wrong score. A 14 year old boy being docked a shot for slow play.................... Yet V.J Singh is allowed to go on his merry way after admitting using a banned substance.

Very poor show IMHO.
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one's a one shot penalty and ones the end of his career............yes rules are rules but hard to compare the two
 
DarthVega said:
one's a one shot penalty and ones the end of his career............yes rules are rules but hard to compare the two
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So why is V.J not suspended pending investigation? He has broken rules, serious rules, prior to the tournament.

He shouldn't even be in the Masters IMHO.

I'm all for seeing the correct rules applied, in both Tiger and the young lads cases, that's part of the game. Not sure why V.J can admit breaking a rule yet continue to play on tour.

Apologies to the OP for side tracking the thread.
 
Signing for the wrong score results in DQ end of story. Fact is if tiger was in doubt he should of asked for a ruling, he did what he thought was right which wasnt. Doesnt matter whether it was ruled on at the time or not, he signed for the wrong score its pretty irrelevant how/when it happened.
 
bluewolf said:
I think that was the Welsh Open and unfortunately Pricey had teed off on the next hole when they informed him, resulting in a 2 shot penalty (I think, and have not yet checked on the t'interweb). Clarkey was mortified as it was a bit of a throwaway comment when he made it.

It just goes to show that although the rules seem ridiculous sometimes, they are there for a purpose and attempt to be fair to everyone in the field....
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Can I just amend this slightly. He didn't tee off at the next hole. I was on the 15th tee when it happened. Howard Clarke wasn't the one that pointed it out. There were 3 of us in line with Philip Price when he teed off. After he left the box, we commented we thought he was a foot in front of the markers as they face the fairway, not the green. Our voices were heard by the techno bods doing editing etc, they reviewed it by the overhead camera. Source: The marshall on the 15th. The techno bods might have sent the message to Howard. Check my question to Howard in this months Golf Monthly to Philip. (which was edited)
 
Joff said:
Can I just amend this slightly. He didn't tee off at the next hole. I was on the 15th tee when it happened. Howard Clarke wasn't the one that pointed it out. There were 3 of us in line with Philip Price when he teed off. After he left the box, we commented we thought he was a foot in front of the markers as they face the fairway, not the green. Our voices were heard by the techno bods doing editing etc, they reviewed it by the overhead camera. Source: The marshall on the 15th. The techno bods might have sent the message to Howard. Check my question to Howard in this months Golf Monthly to Philip. (which was edited)
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Happy to stand corrected mate.. Was just trying to recollect the incident as I watched it on TV at the time...:D
 
nah - he didnt do what he thought was right. he did what he thought would give him the best shot ie play exactly the same shot again, with the same club, so it would land 2 yards in front of the pin rather than hit the pin.

Its not like us mere mortals who couldnt hit the same spot twice in row - we dont have his skill

so instead of playing from the right spot and changing his club - he decided to drop in the wrong place and play the same shot

DQ

bye bye Tiger - see ya next year ;)
 
I think golf would be worse for it but by the rules, just as they were applied to the 14 year old yesterday, Tiger's got to be DQ'd.
 
Neddy said:
Is not a massive failure of the rules officials to not have noticed this before he signed his card??
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no it's not - if Tiger had asked a Rules Official to get involved it wouldn't have happened, but the Rules Official isn't going to get involved otherwise unless a breach of the Rules is obvious.

If Tiger had involved a Rules Official the conversation would go something like this (best practice on both sides):

T - what are my options, my ball last crossed the hazard x and I played my last shot from y?
RO - you have the following options a, b etc
T - so I can drop it as close as possible to y, not nearer the hole or.....
RO - yes
T - I will proceed under that option, can we agree where that was
RO - yes, and walks back to agree
T - I think I played from here - points to divot
RO - fine, or he can question it
T- how close is close enough
RO - as close as possible! Where there's nothing to be gained he would probably accept about a foot, but a hand span is a frequent rule of thumb (hand :))

Note, most pros can drop a ball to strike a tee peg if they try!!!

If it rolls into the divot it would be a re-drop as it's gone forwards (for them!) otherwise it can roll up to 2 club lengths from the point it lands, not nearer the hole, and be OK.

If anyone is to blame it's the caddie, although in this situation Tiger should also have recognised he was stressed and involved an RO 'just in case'.
 
bluewolf said:
Happy to stand corrected mate.. Was just trying to recollect the incident as I watched it on TV at the time...:D
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We didn't know until the next day! It was towards the end of the day on the satur. day I think, we'd been on the 15th all day, we left soon after he teed off.(my two friends actually approached a rules marshall about it, who said he couldn't do anything, probably just trying to get rid of them) We read on twitter the next morning about it, spoke to the marshall we were friendly with and he said it was because of us as he was questioned on it but didn't see from his angle. Philip birdied the hole second time round fwiw, so a two shot penalty became only a 1 shot penalty.
 
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