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The Words of Wisdom of Boris Johnson - Foreign Secretary

Lord Tyrion said:
Any sort of connection, however it was said was hugely irresponsible and foolish. Russia suffered horribly during Ww2 and Boris knows his history. We need to be calming this situation down, this would have the absolute opposite effect.
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They certainly did and having visited Russia several times I have great sympathy for their past and current predicament but let's not forget, if Russia hadn't reached a misguided deal to allow Germany the control of the western front they might not hav suffered the consequences but that's history and time to move on.

Putin does everything for effect and the media and when your country is in the grips of a one sided media it has the predicted effect on the population that has been surprised since 1917. That does give the media an he right to stir things up by taking idiot Boris's answer to the select committee out of context. Once again we have certain reporters wanting to make the news rather than report it.

Anyway, off to East Devon GC today so enjoy your day peps.
 
IanM said:
Really?

Go and read the BBC online comments under the PMs' speech today. Gallons of it. You also missed the stuff about all the great Human Rights stuff we have only had from the ECHR? We cannot do our own trade deals if we stay in the Single Market. Most of the "Remain" posts in the Art 50 thread are about us not being able to exist and trade if we leave the EU. The EU openly planning a EU Army, Border Control and Coastguard. They have tabled a motion to remove Member States from the IMO in favour of a single EU seat.

I could go on,

But of course, I could be wrong. No one has ever said any of the above.
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Bit late picking this up, but why/how are you connecting ECtHR and EU? They are totally unrelated bodies, with completely separate histories, aims etc! The only things they have in common is that the UK (amongst many others) is a participant in both and that the government occasionally objects to receiving unfavourable rulings from an 'external court'!
 
I'm sorry - but watching Boris Johnson being interviewed last night on the BBC News I could not help but wonder 'what a scruff' our Foreign Secretary looks. Does he think his hair style is cool and attractive - does it project an appropriate image (my wife thought it must be gelled or waxed in some way for it to be so sticky-outy and all over the place).

He is our Foreign Secretary and he is theoretically the face of the UK overseas - and I wonder what folks abroad actually think when they see him sitting there - scarecrow hair all over the place - and then they remember the zip wire and laugh.

In some roles I have held where I would meet with the most senior executives in my company - many who were my internal customers - or where I would meet with senior representatives of potential or real external customers - I would be told to tidy myself up and get a hair cut if I looked like Johnson.

Ach well - what do we expect with him - scatter-haired and scatter-brained perhaps do go together.
 
As so the wisdom and loose tongue of our dear FS hands the Russians a big bat to hit us with over the poisoning of the Skripals.

This is the poisoning about which - not that very many moons ago - the FS told us that a 'guy' at Porton Down had told him it was definitely Russia and the FO tweeted accordingly.

And so to today - and Porton Down tell us that they can't attribute the source of the chemical agent used for the poisoning as being Russia - despite our FS and the Foreign Office claiming that PD had indeed made that positive connection. And so the FO delete the tweet. Nice one Boris. Makes Corbyn's caution look spot on.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...wnnovichok-claims-as-opcw-meets-politics-live
 
BJ a very apt name for what must be the most odious politician of all time
Accuses Russia of crimes with no actual evidence
Stops relations visiting
Produces no facts whatsoever
And trying to blame the opposition for his complete incompetence
Imagine if this was Russia accusing us
This complete buffoon is only kept in his position by the totally biased nazi press.
How can anyone be so so completely taken in by this waste of oxygen is beyond my comprehension but he is obviously a hero to some dimwits out there who will believe anything, even what’s written in the mail
 
shagster said:
BJ a very apt name for what must be the most odious politician of all time
Accuses Russia of crimes with no actual evidence
Stops relations visiting
Produces no facts whatsoever
And trying to blame the opposition for his complete incompetence
Imagine if this was Russia accusing us
This complete buffoon is only kept in his position by the totally biased nazi press.
How can anyone be so so completely taken in by this waste of oxygen is beyond my comprehension but he is obviously a hero to some dimwits out there who will believe anything, even what’s written in the mail
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Oooh, are you sure about that?
 
shagster said:
BJ a very apt name for what must be the most odious politician of all time
Accuses Russia of crimes with no actual evidence
Stops relations visiting
Produces no facts whatsoever
And trying to blame the opposition for his complete incompetence
Imagine if this was Russia accusing us
This complete buffoon is only kept in his position by the totally biased nazi press.
How can anyone be so so completely taken in by this waste of oxygen is beyond my comprehension but he is obviously a hero to some dimwits out there who will believe anything, even what’s written in the mail
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My old boss was a great guy......he told me once that if you have a difficult decision to make, turn the whole thing on it's head and look at it the other way........try doing that with the Salisbury situation and then tell me if the UK government deserves our support.
 
shagster said:
BJ a very apt name for what must be the most odious politician of all time
Accuses Russia of crimes with no actual evidence
Stops relations visiting
Produces no facts whatsoever
And trying to blame the opposition for his complete incompetence
Imagine if this was Russia accusing us
This complete buffoon is only kept in his position by the totally biased nazi press.
How can anyone be so so completely taken in by this waste of oxygen is beyond my comprehension but he is obviously a hero to some dimwits out there who will believe anything, even what’s written in the mail
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We might want to also ask what has happened to our FS's dedication, care and attention to getting Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe released - seems that's all forgotten about now that our FS is not in the headlights over it and so she can just stay where she is...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...an-press-release-ofnazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe/
 
Slime said:
Sorry Foxholer, it was just the highlighted bit I was referring to.
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Yeah, agreed! The 'Indeed' referred to your post; the rest referred to shagster's one. Sorry for any confusion!

SwingsitlikeHogan said:
We might want to also ask what has happened to our FS's dedication, care and attention to getting Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe released - seems that's all forgotten about now that our FS is not in the headlights over it and so she can just stay where she is...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...an-press-release-ofnazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe/
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Yep! That's one of his Bojo-ups! Best hair day for him in that link though!
 
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Doon frae Troon said:
My old boss was a great guy......he told me once that if you have a difficult decision to make, turn the whole thing on it's head and look at it the other way........try doing that with the Salisbury situation and then tell me if the UK government deserves our support.
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I believe 'the UK government' has got it right! While the PM has erred slightly on the 'guilty until proven innocent' side, I can actually (and unusually) forgive her for taking that approach, given.... the outrageous act; the evidence of the substance; the history of other similar incidents, both in UK and elsewhere! Corbyn's 'let's wait for all the facts' approach is definitely closer to the 'innocent until proven guilty' traditional UK Justice approach - frequently different from the 'public opinion'/press one! - but it seems, to me, that all the evidence points to Russian agencies as the culprits! My only issue is how far up the command/authorisation chain any decision was made! I've read too many Tom Clancy, David Baldacci etc. stories, let alone having known a dedicated/devout conspiracy theorist!

Now how the Conservative Party uses this issue to further its aims or attack Labour is a whole different issue!
 
Doon frae Troon said:
My old boss was a great guy......he told me once that if you have a difficult decision to make, turn the whole thing on it's head and look at it the other way........try doing that with the Salisbury situation and then tell me if the UK government deserves our support.
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...using that maxim, Hitler was misunderstood. So much for that theory!
 
Foxholer said:
I believe 'the UK government' has got it right! While the PM has erred slightly on the 'guilty until proven innocent' side, I can actually (and unusually) forgive her for taking that approach, given.... the outrageous act; the evidence of the substance; the history of other similar incidents, both in UK and elsewhere! Corbyn's 'let's wait for all the facts' approach is definitely closer to the 'innocent until proven guilty' traditional UK Justice approach - frequently different from the 'public opinion'/press one! - but it seems, to me, that all the evidence points to Russian agencies as the culprits! My only issue is how far up the command/authorisation chain any decision was made! I've read too many Tom Clancy, David Baldacci etc. stories, let alone having known a dedicated/devout conspiracy theorist!

Now how the Conservative Party uses this issue to further its aims or attack Labour is a whole different issue!
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Jury is out for me.
This one joins my list of Dr David Kelly, Chinook Kintyre crash and Deepcut soldiers deaths until I know better.
 
MegaSteve said:
Whereas Vlad 'only' has the poisoning of Litvinenko, the bringing down of MH17 and providing the ways and means allowing Assad to indulge in a 'bit' of genocide lurking in the background...
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Wonder where Assad is getting his chemical weapons and gas from? Yeah, the jury’s on Russia’s sainthood.
 
Conservative Home just voted Johnson 15 most capable minister, one behind Viceroy Muddle of Scotland.:whoo: That is seriously bad.
The good news is that finally the faithful seem to be arriving at the thought that he is utterly useless.
 
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