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Very easy to have a dig at Nurses, incredible to justify your point by saying "she could do a lot worse" The link is the answer to the thread title, IMO
The Real Problem with the NHS
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Very easy to have a dig at Nurses, incredible to justify your point by saying "she could do a lot worse" The link is the answer to the thread title, IMO
bobmac
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I had the occasion to visit my local medical centre for a possible tennis elbow. I was seen on time very polite nurse, all in all a very pleasant experience. What did amaze me was a sign on the wall next to reception......... Missed appointments for March......304 
I had the occasion to visit my local medical centre for a possible tennis elbow. I was seen on time very polite nurse, all in all a very pleasant experience. What did amaze me was a sign on the wall next to reception......... Missed appointments for March......304
Went to my GP last week for a diabetic review. Missed appointments = 242 for the previous month and that's just the local surgery. You can imagine how that would impact any NHS hospital and the lost time (and revenue in some cases) could have been used on a patient needing help and prepared to accept and attend
Crazyface
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So for filling out forms and being generally incompetent £21k a year plus add ons. Jesus H Christ !!!!! That almost double my pay!!!!!
CheltenhamHacker
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Sorry, what? Are you implying that nurses just fill out forms, and are generally incompetent? Clearly if it's such an easy job, that is paid twice what you're on, you should do it. In fact, it sounds so easy that there must be loads of nurses, and no possible way there would be a shortfall of nurses and NHS staff at the moment...
ger147
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You're either on less than minimum wage or work part time if that's what you earn.
If you work part-time, do you think you should earn the same as someone working more hours?
bluewolf
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If this comment is a taste of what your mind is capable of, then I suspect you're overpaid....
Tashyboy
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And there in lies one of the problems, missed appointment = charge um for non attendance. If they don't pay. Find another GP.
BUt free healthcare is the bedrock of the NHS philosophy and lets be realistic, most of those getting treatment are at the lower end of the social scale and so don't have the cash to pay and won't. How can you then stop them having a GP. It then makes it a pay per use service
SocketRocket
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It's only free at the point of delivery Homer. The tax (NI) payer funds it (Some people seem to think it's Government funds, which don't exist) so making a small fine would only be a contribution to the fund. Maybe we should all pay a deposit at the GPs when we register, maybe £20, if you fail to attend an appointment then you lose your deposit and have to repay it. Or something similar.
Very nice in principal but as I said, with most coming from the lower end of the social scale, they don't have the cash or the intent to pay any fine levied and it'll clog the system up trying to get this money due In the meantime if you preclude them from getting GP treatment, not even taking into account they may need services like repeat medication, they will simply trot along to A&E and use that
SocketRocket
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Take the £20 out their benefits. All they have to do is turn up for the appointment or cancel it if they dont want to pay. Whats the problem?
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So it's only people on benefits who miss appointments.
And all the admin staff to collect and chase those who don't pay, which budget is that coming from?
Another layer of non-medical staff in the NHS, exactly what it needs.
But it's more admin somewhere down the line for one department or another. And no it's not just those on benefits!
SocketRocket
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Well I didn't actually suggest that but was replying to a comment from someone suggesting most were. Try reading the thread.
I suggested a deposit paid to the surgery when you register and you lose it if you miss an appointment that you have not cancelled. I cant see this needs a new layer of Admin staff to operate.
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Deleted member 16999
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I did read the thread, what Homer said was "the lower end of the social scale" it was you who interpreted it as unemployed on benefits.
So Doctors surgery's would be expected to handle cash, account for it, secure it, manage the account it's paid into etc etc and you don't see any issues with this!
SocketRocket
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No I dont see problems but you are trying to find them. A simple account with a spreadsheet logging who has a current deposit and who needs to pay one, it could be linked into the patients medical record. I dont care if they are on benefits or not, I assumed Homer was refering to this in his post.
What you seem to be missing is that if people keep appointments or even cancel them with reasonable notice then they wont lose their deposits. It's no good people bleating on that the large number of missed appointments are putting the NHS under strain and then saying it's not possible to do anything about it.
PhilTheFragger
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One of the main reasons for missed appointments, in my opinion, is that it takes so long to get an appointment that often the problem has cleared up of its own accord, so there is no need to go see the doc, and people forget about the appointment.
I conclude from this that many people are making unnecessary appointments and maybe they would be better seeing the chemist instead.
we are turning into a nation of wimps and wusses
Just my opinion of course
I conclude from this that many people are making unnecessary appointments and maybe they would be better seeing the chemist instead.
we are turning into a nation of wimps and wusses
Just my opinion of course
StrangelyBrown
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Ish... I think there's a lack of knowledge or education regarding certain things. For instance, the amount of people that think an antibiotic can cure a cold is actually quite startling.
If people used 101 or called for a phone appointment to discuss things with the duty doctor, I'm sure that the number of wasted appointments would be reduced.
And for the avoidance of doubt, I'm an assistant project manager in the NHS. So I guess that I'm one of the form filling, incompetent pencil pushers... :rollseyes:
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IMO, staff in the NHS are easy targets regardless of role, missed appointments for any reason is wrong, we need to educate people to communicate properly.
I understand this is an NHS thread but I just wish people had as much passion about fineing the bankers who caused the reccession or the tax dodgers, instead we blame the weakest and most vunerable of our society or the staff who are the front line of what is, even with the problems, the finest health care system in the world.
I understand this is an NHS thread but I just wish people had as much passion about fineing the bankers who caused the reccession or the tax dodgers, instead we blame the weakest and most vunerable of our society or the staff who are the front line of what is, even with the problems, the finest health care system in the world.
