simsini
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Scheffler reminds me of Pete Sampras constantly winning Wimbledon in the 90s. No real flair, just sheer consistency.
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Beezerk
Money List Winner
First major I’ve not really paid much attention to, granted I was away on a golfing weekend with the lads but I didn’t watch any live stuff at all and only caught Friday nights highlights because the missus wanted to watch them 
Springveldt
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Didn't it chuck it down at Birkdale when Harman won? I'm sure I can remember him waggling away in his waterproofs with me screaming at the TV "Just hit the damn thing".
Springveldt
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Most of the top Europeans grow up playing that as well because if they have the talent they are off to the States to play college golf at 17.
evemccc
Well-known member
Exactly
It’s cheerleading, tub-thumping, sycophancy and ‘journalism / broadcasting’ at its most infantile..
Creates and assumes its audience are interested in personality click-bait articles rather than who actually won
evemccc
Well-known member
The idea that Americans can’t play links or in the wind is as old as the hills….and in so many cases, plainly wrong
Springveldt
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I actually sat down and watched a film with the missus and missed the last 9 holes or so as it was a forgone conclusion that Scottie was winning at a canter.First major I’ve not really paid much attention to, granted I was away on a golfing weekend with the lads but I didn’t watch any live stuff at all and only caught Friday nights highlights because the missus wanted to watch them
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Orikoru
Tour Winner
No flair?? Have you not seen his swing? Have you seen what he does to hit a draw? I don't understand this attitude, I love the way he plays, I think he's very inventive. Just because he consistently good to a ridiculous level, that doesn't make him 'robotic' as people say. Would we prefer he chucks in some crap shots to make it more entertaining? He two-whacked out of a fairway bunker yesterday, what more do you want?
irip
Head Pro
I think it’s the unbelievable consistency that Scottie has when people say he is robotic.
If all the golfers on tour played at their best every round I don’t think Scottie would be anywhere near the top of leaderboards.
However he seems to have the ability to get the ball round in a decent score when not playing that well and other players could only dream of that.
If after 2 rounds he and Rory were both 10 under you can guarantee he would have shot 2 rounds of 5 under and Rory a 10 under and level par.
If he can keep that consistent level going for the next few years will be interesting
If all the golfers on tour played at their best every round I don’t think Scottie would be anywhere near the top of leaderboards.
However he seems to have the ability to get the ball round in a decent score when not playing that well and other players could only dream of that.
If after 2 rounds he and Rory were both 10 under you can guarantee he would have shot 2 rounds of 5 under and Rory a 10 under and level par.
If he can keep that consistent level going for the next few years will be interesting
simsini
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He is pretty even tempered and doesn't show much emotion or personality on the course. That's why I compared him to Pete Sampras. He gets the job done with ruthless efficiency, which doesn't make good viewing for spectators on the course or on TV. There is no drama at all.No flair?? Have you not seen his swing? Have you seen what he does to hit a draw? I don't understand this attitude, I love the way he plays, I think he's very inventive. Just because he consistently good to a ridiculous level, that doesn't make him 'robotic' as people say. Would we prefer he chucks in some crap shots to make it more entertaining? He two-whacked out of a fairway bunker yesterday, what more do you want?
Orikoru
Tour Winner
It's funny that you portray this as a bad thing, because the ones who do show their emotion on the course - Hatton, Clark, Garcia - get absolutely slated for it as well. Unless you mean Scottie should walk around the course grinning from ear to ear at how good he is.
No, you are right in the sense that someone coasting to victory is not great TV viewing. But he is still amazing to watch if you forget the competition and just appreciate his near-flawless golf.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Did he say it was a bad thing!?It's funny that you portray this as a bad thing, because the ones who do show their emotion on the course - Hatton, Clark, Garcia - get absolutely slated for it as well. Unless you mean Scottie should walk around the course grinning from ear to ear at how good he is.
No, you are right in the sense that someone coasting to victory is not great TV viewing. But he is still amazing to watch if you forget the competition and just appreciate his near-flawless golf.
Or did you jump to the conclusion that because he was being compared to Sampras and had no real flair, you thought that was a bad thing?
Some pretty average sportspeople (in terms of results) have tonnes of flair. Some of the best are boringly steady. Not every top sports person has flair, otherwise Ballesteros would be less memorable, as all the top guys would have his flair.
simsini
Well-known member
I haven't said it's a bad thing, as an individual it's a huge strength. It just doesn't make good viewing.It's funny that you portray this as a bad thing, because the ones who do show their emotion on the course - Hatton, Clark, Garcia - get absolutely slated for it as well. Unless you mean Scottie should walk around the course grinning from ear to ear at how good he is.
No, you are right in the sense that someone coasting to victory is not great TV viewing. But he is still amazing to watch if you forget the competition and just appreciate his near-flawless golf.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Yeah, sorry, I was viewing it as a negative comment overall in conjunction with saying he had no flair, which I didn't think was true. I think it's weird to say his golf is boring just because he's relentlessly good. Some of the shots he hits are out of this world.
Ballesteros had 'flair' because he would hit some awful shots in the first place and have to recover from them. I'm sure Scottie feels he can do without this type of flair by hitting good tee shots in the first place.
Swango1980
Well-known member
I'd say a golfer only needs flair, if they keep putting themselves in a position that needs a magician to get out of.Yeah, sorry, I was viewing it as a negative comment overall in conjunction with saying he had no flair, which I didn't think was true. I think it's weird to say his golf is boring just because he's relentlessly good. Some of the shots he hits are out of this world.
Ballesteros had 'flair' because he would hit some awful shots in the first place and have to recover from them. I'm sure Scottie feels he can do without this type of flair by hitting good tee shots in the first place.
The best way to play golf is to drive the ball on fairways, smack the ball on greens to pin high, and then hit one or 2 putts. There is no flair needed. It is still unbelievable golf.
sunshine
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A great event, shame the calm conditions turned it into a procession, but what a player Scottie is. Starting to show a level of dominance we've not seen since Tiger.
First advert break after Scottie holed the winning putt was a long Tiger montage (Rolex). Seemed an appropriate passing of the baton.
I don't know why the BBC golf coverage needs to include emojis and filters. Looks like it's been put together by a 13 year old girl. Very lame attempt at trying to be down with the kids. Ken on the course is brilliant, the rest of it less so. Sky miles ahead. I loved the graphic they did which super-imposed the 1st hole on top of the 1st at St Andrews, great visualisation to show why it was such a tough opening tee shot.
First advert break after Scottie holed the winning putt was a long Tiger montage (Rolex). Seemed an appropriate passing of the baton.
I don't know why the BBC golf coverage needs to include emojis and filters. Looks like it's been put together by a 13 year old girl. Very lame attempt at trying to be down with the kids. Ken on the course is brilliant, the rest of it less so. Sky miles ahead. I loved the graphic they did which super-imposed the 1st hole on top of the 1st at St Andrews, great visualisation to show why it was such a tough opening tee shot.
The Squirrel
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If he did strut round the course giving it the “I’m the man” vibes he’d (possibly rightly) be thought of as arrogant. I’ll take the actual humble modest thoughtful and decent Scottie any day.It's funny that you portray this as a bad thing, because the ones who do show their emotion on the course - Hatton, Clark, Garcia - get absolutely slated for it as well. Unless you mean Scottie should walk around the course grinning from ear to ear at how good he is.
No, you are right in the sense that someone coasting to victory is not great TV viewing. But he is still amazing to watch if you forget the competition and just appreciate his near-flawless golf.
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
Portrush is a superb golf course and is tough enough I promise. The rough wasn't crazy and the wind never really got going. Any links with similar conditions would have seen better scoring than anticipated (Carnoustie included)
cant say i watched much though i did get a bit Friday and Sat afternoon. did it get windy? 17 under seems a low score for the open.
Swango1980
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Wasn't really that windy at all. Looking at previous Open wins, there seem to be quite a few won with very good scores. This particular one is probably compounded by the fact that Scheffler is one of the most outstanding golfers of a generation it seems, AND had a very good week for him.
It is only the second time the Open has been at Portrush. It will be nice to see it there in the future, on a very windy week. Perhaps then some may judge the course much much more tricky than they think it is when they watched it on a calm week with Scheffler on top form.
