He has asked for questions and discussion but just discounts what people are saying and isn't listening to their points of view.
He's been a member for years.
If you see anything here as attacks, I would be careful leaving the house
Just debate, that's all.
Great insight Slab.(Not posted as a caddy)
If we start with the principle that players on the elite tours do need a caddy (& they do) It follows that players will choose their caddy based on a range of requirements/qualities and according to their means
So we’ll see everything across a spectrum of ppl who could ‘carry the bag’ from friends/relatives to local resource, excellent AM golfers to specialists with years of experience who are full time employees of the player
The latter group are much more likely to be included as part of the team by the player and maybe have their contribution recognised.
After all what employer would hog 100% of the credit when he takes help from one or more ppl to achieve a given result/outcome? Particularly if they are potentially paying 100’s of thousands to that person
Bottom line, do we think the players manager/mngt company would silently support a player to commit to such a huge annual expense if there was no notable added benefit over a local course caddy?
And if a good caddy does add that much value, is it really that weird if a player acknowledges it from time to time
Golf is massively different now these days. What about the balance between golf and media / sponsorship duties? What about the pressure of having millions of people criticise you all over social media, whereas back in the day you could probably get about your business and maybe only talk to the golf friendly journalists every now and then.
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I think it’s great to have newer members to the forum especially ones who post and start threads.
None of ur business but yes I created an account in 2012 made a few posts over a few days. Logged out and didn’t log in again until a few days ago 13 years later. And if I decide to do that again I will.It was the 'warm welcome' you referred to. He's been here since 2012
Fair point about the pressures of modern game in comparison to back in day. Re. Media, sponsorship etc
None of ur business but yes I created an account in 2012 made a few posts over a few days. Logged out and didn’t log in again until a few days ago 13 years later. And if I decide to do that again I will.
And there’s feck all u can do about it pal…except made snide comments of course.
No I’m saying at the very top of the game for those marginal gains, building a team around a golfer hasn’t been significantly reflected in the season long scoring average titles.
Agreed.
Ah yes. The rules knowledge element.You're perhaps (kindly) overestimating my caddying background
But I can say like any craft or trade a specialist is often one who makes a career in that field and they will vary in quality
On the point of local or employed, continuity and known consistency would stand out, each knows what the other wants as opposed to player inducting a new caddy every week not even knowing if they'll get along let alone what quality of caddy he gets that week. That's gotta be worth a financial commitment
On my very limited experience as the 'local yokel' we've been paired with several guys who had full-time caddies and you can tell straight away the relationship is different/better , also paired with player with wife as caddy and in that instance it did not lend itself to maximising player potential because she was there as bag carrier/trolley, but one that can potentially cost the player penalty strokes
Ah yes. The rules knowledge element.
Good point I hadn’t considered.
See I’m learning!
And there’s point of a debate/conversation is if someone has a stance/opinion on a matter, others can bring their perspective for someone to consider and potentially change their stance to some degree.
Also, what about the point on whether a caddie is likely to leave a player if they are not involved enough?
Is that even a thing?
