USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
I haven't read it yet, so can't comment on the article, I have only read the reviews on GPS devices on the GM web site.
The GPS debate
- Thread starter NeilTappin
- Start date
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
To be fair to the guys who write these debates, quite often you can tell that one or both of them are writing their piece from a side they do not believe in. However, if it sparks debate on here, or in the club house, then I guess it does it's job, and provides entertaining reading, even if the readers response is 'that's rubbish (insert stronger word here if required)'.
I remember the debate about shank versus air shot as the worst golf shot, and there is no way anyone in their right mind would argue against the shank (unless they have never had one).
I remember the debate about shank versus air shot as the worst golf shot, and there is no way anyone in their right mind would argue against the shank (unless they have never had one).
DCB
Well-known member
C'mon Dodger, spit it out, say what you really mean 
Never one to sit on the fence DCB!
For those with the SG2.5 does it have the same fixing "button" on the back as the SG5? It's just that I'm thinking of designing and manufacturing a trolly mount for the skycaddie (something a bit cheeper than the 50 quid job they have) Prototype should be ready for the Ascot meet.
TonyN
Money List Winner
Yeah.
Some crafty forumer who gets up early in the mornings actually got two. First one he paid £112.00 for with free in car charger and leather protective case, second one he got for £97.00...
And the same Crafty forummer tipped some one else off who also got one for £97, I wonder who that was.
The SG2.5 can switch holes if it thinks you have proceded onto the next hole, but with just a couple of clicks it will load up the hole you desire and get you back on track.
HH, to be fair if anyone using GPS is slowing down the game then they need a bloomin slap. Seriously. It is just like most etiquette, its what you do between shots that counts.
Here is how GPS speeds up play for me.
Before I had one.
I would approach my ball all the while looking for a distance marker and pace out my yardage if I passed one on the way. If I was short of say the 100 yard marker I would put my bag down next to my ball and then march up to the 100 yard marker, pace back adding yards till I got to my ball. Then have a look at the pin position and decide on club, taking into account all other factors. (lie, wind etc) Play the shot, get mad because I was short, walk to the green and realise I could of taken another club because there was an extra 20 yards between pin and back. I now have to chip on and then hole out. Obviously this didnt happen every hole, but mostly
Now I have one.
I approach my ball looking at flag position, taking into account all the factors and when I reach my ball place my bag down. I have a quick look at my front middle and back yardages, select my club, pick my line and wait my turn. By the time it is my turn to play I am over the ball and ready to go. Play shot (hopefully hit green) because I took the extra club knowing I could. Not have to play a chip from 30 yards short and just take the putts. (obviously this doesn't happen every hole, but most of them)
GPS used in the correct mannor, WILL speed up play and REDUCE your likelyhood of coming up short.
Since I added an SC 2.5 to my bag I have gone from shooting high 90's to low 80's. I beleive it mostly is thanks to the SC!
HartleyHare
Assistant Pro
maybe i'm wrong on this then and i'm judging them all on my experiences stuck behind some doddery idiots that would have held everyone up with or without GPS.
if anyone brings one to mottram hall i'll have a gander and may be convinced further.
of course if GM want me to have an extended loan of one of there testers i'd be happy to oblige from a total novices P.O.V.
if anyone brings one to mottram hall i'll have a gander and may be convinced further.
of course if GM want me to have an extended loan of one of there testers i'd be happy to oblige from a total novices P.O.V.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
It was the conclusion reached at the GM testing day (Crowborough I think) that in normal circumstances these devices did make the pace of play quicker. Its like anything though if you have an idiot that can't use the thing in the manner it was designed (waiting for a +/- 1 yard fluctuation to settle, looking on the wrong part of his bag for the device etc) then the potential saving will be nullified and play may even be slower.
I think there are two set camps on this those for and those who think it is a sin to use them with Hartleyhare a brave sole in no mans land although closer to the not over my dead body trenches than any middle ground.
I think the article has done what it intended and that was to provoke debate. I'm sure there are clubhouses around the country having the same discussions we are based on the piece.
I think there are two set camps on this those for and those who think it is a sin to use them with Hartleyhare a brave sole in no mans land although closer to the not over my dead body trenches than any middle ground.
I think the article has done what it intended and that was to provoke debate. I'm sure there are clubhouses around the country having the same discussions we are based on the piece.
haplesshacker
Money List Winner
The pace of play experiment did come up in Jezz's piece I think, and one other in the mag this month.
As part of the fourball that had the SC in it, I think it was Sammeebees, I recall that Murph wasn't convinced by them at the start of the round, but was sold on it by the end of the round.
I have found in the yacht racing field that there are those that know how to use GPSs, and the information it provides, and those that don't or can't. Believe me, it's amazing what you can 'draw out' of some very simple information given by a standard GPS. It's just knowing how to interpretate it.
Golf GPSs by comparison are so easy to use and the golfer does not have to interpretate any info at all. Simples!
If only I could hit a ball consistantly enough to justify buying one. And that is perhaps where the argument should be, whether or not they're much use to high handicappers.
As part of the fourball that had the SC in it, I think it was Sammeebees, I recall that Murph wasn't convinced by them at the start of the round, but was sold on it by the end of the round.
I have found in the yacht racing field that there are those that know how to use GPSs, and the information it provides, and those that don't or can't. Believe me, it's amazing what you can 'draw out' of some very simple information given by a standard GPS. It's just knowing how to interpretate it.
Golf GPSs by comparison are so easy to use and the golfer does not have to interpretate any info at all. Simples!
If only I could hit a ball consistantly enough to justify buying one. And that is perhaps where the argument should be, whether or not they're much use to high handicappers.
vig
Tour Winner
You can have a gander at mine.
I fix mine to the carry strap. When I reach my ball. I have a quick look at the yardage to either pin or if I cant reach the green, the hazards, I want to avoid. I then choose the club that gets me there.
As opposed to getting to the ball, estimating the distance, looking for markers then choosing the club.
Using the GPS HAS reduced the time it takes me on my course by 15 minutes. Not a lot you may think but that probably increases on unfamiliar courses
viscount17
Money List Winner
not having an SG5 to compare, the SG2.5 has a plastic button, bit like a cheese-head screw. the 'inner' latching diameter is about 10 mm, the 'outer' retaining diameter about 13 mm. Fits into a 'horseshoe' belt clip.
checked on line, there is only one 'temp cart mount', same one for both
backwoodsman
Tour Winner
Definitely seems to me that some in the "haven't got one, haven't used one" camp have developed a wrong idea about the working of GPS. Not sure about other brands as I haven't used them - but use of a Skycaddies takes no longer than checking the time on your watch. It displays a distance - you look at it - done. Anything that slows play is something else.
TonyN
Money List Winner
Seriously if you think about it. You probably take as long or if not longer to study a stroke saver! How many people moan about them slowing play down?
Cheers Viscount, thats the same as the SG5....I'll start knocking something up now that will fit both.
