The future of golf clubs ??

[SAPCOR1]

Why should a private members club be run for the benefit of visitors? I would rather pay a bit more on my annual subs and be able to get on the course when I want than pay less and not be able to get on at all.

Not the benefit of visitors but benefit for the club itself, as an example.

Just because player A has always tee'd off at 9am every Saturday doesn't mean that he/she should always be able to play at 9am every Saturday. Player B deserves a look in

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Not the benefit of visitors but benefit for the club itself, as an example.

Just because player A has always tee'd off at 9am every Saturday doesn't mean that he/she should always be able to play at 9am every Saturday. Player B deserves a look in

With a turn up and play policy player B gets a look in :thup:

Let's talk real world here......

I've been a member of 2 private clubs that don't use start sheets, I can't remember ever having to wait longer than 30 minutes to tee off, even on a Saturday morning. What happens is people soon realise the busy and quiet times and plan their golf accordingly.

 

[markgs]

lets just all agree life is easier with brs, more clubs use it than dont in my area so must be more than just me thinking its really good thing. 30 people on the tee sat,sun morning really is the dark ages. If my club stop brs i will leave straight away and join a club that runs BRS even if its in the middle of the season

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

lets just all agree life is easier with brs, more clubs use it than dont in my area so must be more than just me thinking its really good thing. 30 people on the tee sat,sun morning really is the dark ages.

No I don't think we do agree BRS is easier.

 

[markgs]

No I don't think we do agree BRS is easier.

so you like standing around waiting?? what else do you do for hobby wait in A&E for fun
you have 4k posts surley booking a tee on brs is not a problem for someone that spends lots of time online or am i missing something

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

so you like standing around waiting?? what else do you do for hobby wait in A&E for fun

15 mins on the 1st tee isn't the end of the world.

 

[markgs]

15 mins on good day or 0 mins just book in easy

Would you go to doctors without an appointment and wait around no, so what is the point in waiting on 1st tee the technology is there so lets use it and enjoy digital age

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

15 mins on good day or 0 mins just book in easy

At 3pm when you wanted to play at 9am but the start sheet was full

 

[fundy]

so you like standing around waiting?? what else do you do for hobby wait in A&E for fun
you have 4k posts surley booking a tee on brs is not a problem for someone that spends lots of time online or am i missing something

why cant you accept that what suits you isnt necessarily what suits other people and that they may prefer an alternative? are you really that arrogant that whats right for you is right for everyone?

 

[markgs]

At 3pm when you wanted to play at 9am but the start sheet was full

Well all i can say is book in earlier on BRS Early bird catches the worm

 

[markgs]

why cant you accept that what suits you isnt necessarily what suits other people and that they may prefer an alternative? are you really that arrogant that whats right for you is right for everyone?

Its called organization

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Well all i can say is book in earlier on BRS Early bird catches the worm

And that is exactly the problem. People book all the best times weeks in advance as soon as the system goes live. What if your wife tells you that you can't play golf on a certain Saturday because something else is happening then the plan changes the Friday before? Good luck trying to get a Saturday morning start time

 

[Deleted member 15344]

lets just all agree life is easier with brs, more clubs use it than dont in my area so must be more than just me thinking its really good thing. 30 people on the tee sat,sun morning really is the dark ages. If my club stop brs i will leave straight away and join a club that runs BRS even if its in the middle of the season

Tee booking systems will suit some courses but won't suit others - certainly wouldn't make life easier at ours

Swindles are the life of the weekends - people turn up wait for their turn and go out and play - no need for a tee booking system.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

15 mins on good day or 0 mins just book in easy

Would you go to doctors without an appointment and wait around no, so what is the point in waiting on 1st tee the technology is there so lets use it and enjoy digital age

Haha brilliant! How often have you tried to get a doctor's appt and had to wait weeks, when it comes around you are better and no longer need it?


And it just so happens that my doctor has open surgery times where I can queue up and see him when it suits me

 

[Slab]

On both threads it seems to be primarily the weekend morning roll ups that folks think would be affected by using/not using a booking system
Although with examples of 20-30 players in roll ups we're talking about maybe 5% of the membership and these guys are surely not really the prime concern when considering a booking system (despite them controlling the prime tee off times)

Ultimately though a club will never be in a position maximize its revenue without a booking tool of some kind (& I get that this doesn't matter to some clubs or their members)

The members will choose whatever system is in their best interests as individuals

 

[Smiffy]

Highwoods did not have an on-line booking system. I lost count of the number of times I went up there for a game and had to sit around in the bar for up to an hour waiting for a tee slot. I left.
Cooden has an online booking system. I already know that I am teeing off at 11.22 next Wednesday. What's not to like??? I'm staying.

 

[markgs]

Highwoods did not have an on-line booking system. I lost count of the number of times I went up there for a game and had to sit around in the bar for up to an hour waiting for a tee slot. I left.
Cooden has an online booking system. I already know that I am teeing off at 11.22 next Wednesday. What's not to like??? I'm staying.

Its perfect to me knowing in advance. BRS is growing for a reason and is better for club revenue.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Sounds like these groups have it sown up. Do they really welcome ANY new member? Is it clear to new members they'd be welcome or would they need to make the approach themselves? What if you want to play at that time but aren't comfortable with that particular clique?

I'll answer this. There is no clique. Anyone can play. I have personally told the pro and secretary to get new members to just turn up and ask for me or give me a call if they want to play. Shortly before I moved I even re-arranged our groups to accommodate two new members I met in the car park on the way to the first tee. Also, if people arrive at the tee and want to play on their own, we let them to the front of the queue.

Not having tee bookings works well if the members make it work and if it wasn't working, there would be members calling for a change. A few years ago the committee raised the tee booking question and the members voted a unanimous "No". In fact, it is seen by the club as one of the positives of membership.

 

[markgs]

I'll answer this. There is no clique. Anyone can play. I have personally told the pro and secretary to get new members to just turn up and ask for me or give me a call if they want to play. Shortly before I moved I even re-arranged our groups to accommodate two new members I met in the car park on the way to the first tee. Also, if people arrive at the tee and want to play on their own, we let them to the front of the queue.

Not having tee bookings works well if the members make it work and if it wasn't working, there would be members calling for a change. A few years ago the committee raised the tee booking question and the members voted a unanimous "No". In fact, it is seen by the club as one of the positives of membership.

Its good for groups of 30 people that play first out every sat/Sunday that's about it. If you want new members let give them all a chance to book in your holy tee time. There are a lot more members in a golf club than your group. My club uses it work we do have a group that moan but who give a jack let um moan they only play 7 days a week

 

[guest100718]

A booking system can only be a good thing really, most clubs seem to have one these days. We can book 21 days in advance and during the winter months when the days are short you do have to be quick if you want an early tee time. In the summer it no big deal, plenty of time to go around.

I cant see it being any different anywhere at this time of year, i'd rather be on the ball with the booking system then have to turn up extra early just to get the time i want.