craigstardis1976
Head Pro
Hi Everyone!
I have uploaded a copy of the 1994 Cutting Edge series from Channel 4 called "The Club." It was made with the willing co-operation of Norwood Golf Club in the suburbs of North London and was viewed and approved by them prior to transmission. If anyone has seen this or seen it before and wants to resee it, here is the link:
I have a few questions about it, more to do with how club golf was back in the day, if anyone would care to have a go at answering them or just any comments in general as I love learning about social history.
1. Is this a fair reflection of how many men acted at suburban golf clubs in this time period? The Membership Director: Allan Sanders claims there is a diverse range of members from "leaders of multi-national companies to those in very humble positions" - that may or may not be the case. But what qualities do you think they were looking for could identify in prospective members being "Suitable" for the club?
2. Was the attitude towards women golfers fairly typical of the time period?
3. For a club that claims to have prominent members...some of their dress sense (this of course the era of Pringle, Wolsey) looks like a mix of clothing from anywhere between the 60s and 80s - or am I misreading that?
4. While understanding golf equipment was not as sophisticated as it is now, at what claims to be a comfortable well off club, why are so many of the members using clubs, bags and so on that look decade old even then? Or was that just the way it was?
5. I have lots of golf instruction books from the 1960s and 1970s and think I have more of an old school golf swing but some of the swings on display here for people who by then would have played for ten, twenty maybe even thirty years all seem very different indeed - was that the case years ago among club golfers?
6. The Gentleman who is being called out...the amazing thing is he (nor seemingly anyone in the room)_actually questions the conduct and behavior of the members holding the meeting. Before you accuse anyone of "conduct unbecoming of a gentlemen) have you at least not to be able to demonstrate (at least in manner) and preferably by example, that you hold that standard, yourself.
7. I get the impression people thought of themselves as either lucky to be there, tolerated or they owned the place? Did no-one at this time say "You know if we go on like this we are just going to run out of people?
Finally, it seems such a shame to me that although I have gone on to achieve a lot in life, members here in 1994 are so concerned with gatekeeping and only wanting "their sort" even to play golf. Sadly, I would have been one of the teenagers at the time refused admission because I was not the "right sort."
What do you all think?
Cheers
I have uploaded a copy of the 1994 Cutting Edge series from Channel 4 called "The Club." It was made with the willing co-operation of Norwood Golf Club in the suburbs of North London and was viewed and approved by them prior to transmission. If anyone has seen this or seen it before and wants to resee it, here is the link:
I have a few questions about it, more to do with how club golf was back in the day, if anyone would care to have a go at answering them or just any comments in general as I love learning about social history.
1. Is this a fair reflection of how many men acted at suburban golf clubs in this time period? The Membership Director: Allan Sanders claims there is a diverse range of members from "leaders of multi-national companies to those in very humble positions" - that may or may not be the case. But what qualities do you think they were looking for could identify in prospective members being "Suitable" for the club?
2. Was the attitude towards women golfers fairly typical of the time period?
3. For a club that claims to have prominent members...some of their dress sense (this of course the era of Pringle, Wolsey) looks like a mix of clothing from anywhere between the 60s and 80s - or am I misreading that?
4. While understanding golf equipment was not as sophisticated as it is now, at what claims to be a comfortable well off club, why are so many of the members using clubs, bags and so on that look decade old even then? Or was that just the way it was?
5. I have lots of golf instruction books from the 1960s and 1970s and think I have more of an old school golf swing but some of the swings on display here for people who by then would have played for ten, twenty maybe even thirty years all seem very different indeed - was that the case years ago among club golfers?
6. The Gentleman who is being called out...the amazing thing is he (nor seemingly anyone in the room)_actually questions the conduct and behavior of the members holding the meeting. Before you accuse anyone of "conduct unbecoming of a gentlemen) have you at least not to be able to demonstrate (at least in manner) and preferably by example, that you hold that standard, yourself.
7. I get the impression people thought of themselves as either lucky to be there, tolerated or they owned the place? Did no-one at this time say "You know if we go on like this we are just going to run out of people?
Finally, it seems such a shame to me that although I have gone on to achieve a lot in life, members here in 1994 are so concerned with gatekeeping and only wanting "their sort" even to play golf. Sadly, I would have been one of the teenagers at the time refused admission because I was not the "right sort."
What do you all think?
Cheers
