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Possibly a bit more at times
Surely even you can't find anything wrong with that
The Case For Trident
- Thread starter Doon frae Troon
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Possibly a bit more at times
Surely even you can't find anything wrong with that
Grogger
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I think it's closer to 1200 troops
Doon frae Troon
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Population of the Falklands is less than 3,000, they seem to be very well defended.
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Again is there a problem with that?
chippa1909
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An excellent idea. Lets base Trident in the Falklands.
The reality is that the Argentine economy is always on the edge. Any chance to pop over to The Falklands would give the President a huge boost with the population plus bring extra money into their coffers from the oil revenue. If we reduced the numbers on The Falklands it would practically be an invitation to invade and we are in no position any more to regain it.
Whether we should be in The Falklands at all is another matter but if we are going to be there it is simpler to man it than try to regain it.
On a Trident theme, it didn't persuade the Argentines not to invade last time. Sorry, a big waste of money that we don't have for me.
Whether we should be in The Falklands at all is another matter but if we are going to be there it is simpler to man it than try to regain it.
On a Trident theme, it didn't persuade the Argentines not to invade last time. Sorry, a big waste of money that we don't have for me.
DCB
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We didn't have it in 1982
however, one submarine patrolling the area was all that was needed to keep the Argentine Navy tied up in port.
SocketRocket
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What oil is that then?
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Well the oil position is still unsure yet
And yes we could regain the Falklands "IF" they by any chance invaded
The Falklands have voted to be part of the U.K. so that's the best reason for us to be their
Trident isn't a deterrent to stop people invading the Falklands
We didn't have it in 1982
That's me told. Fair point.
Self determination is the key which is why I support the current position. However, a map of the world explains why our right to the Falklands is tenuous. Really it should be independent but then it is likely that the Argentines would invade so we are pretty much stuck with the status quo.
Can we specify who we are deterring Trident with? Does it work that way? Do we have a list of which countries we are deterring?
(sorry, I will try to learn the multi quote thingy)
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Deterrent against other nuclear powers
I was being somewhat tongue in cheek but I guess that is the crux of the matter. Does it deter? I am not convinced.
tugglesf239
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Yes
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Well has any nuclear weapons been fired at countries ?
That is the same argument used by sellers of anti tiger spray in the UK.
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Eh
If other countries disarmed then so would we but that's never going to happen so we have our responsibilities towards the UN and NATO and provide a nuclear deterrent towards other countries - and yes it does work because other countries know that pressing the button for them would mean the same response from us.
Our deterrent is small and insignificant against the one power we are really talking about, Russia. Our arsenal would not deter them. Even if it got to it I believe we need permission from the US to fire ours and if we are at that point then frankly the number of missiles they have make ours meaningless. In reality, the US and Russia are the only ones who need nukes to cancel each other out, the rest of us are doing it for ego, notable exception of Israel which is a whole different story. So, IMO we are spending billions on massaging our ego. Daft.
Have you never heard the anti tiger spray argument?
Have you never heard the anti tiger spray argument?
SocketRocket
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They have been drilling for many years and have found nothing.
