The Case For Trident

Lord Tyrion said:
Our deterrent is small and insignificant against the one power we are really talking about, Russia. Our arsenal would not deter them. Even if it got to it I believe we need permission from the US to fire ours and if we are at that point then frankly the number of missiles they have make ours meaningless. In reality, the US and Russia are the only ones who need nukes to cancel each other out, the rest of us are doing it for ego, notable exception of Israel which is a whole different story. So, IMO we are spending billions on massaging our ego. Daft.

Have you never heard the anti tiger spray argument?
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It's a nuclear warhead - each one can destroy a city at the flick of a switch and yes it does deter - ego's ?! Sorry but that's nonsense - it serves a purpose and part of strategic plans and within NATO and the UN - they are they for military reasons not ego's

It's not just the US and Russia and hasnt been for a long time.
 
SocketRocket said:
They have been drilling for many years and have found nothing.
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That's not strictly true is it

Found oil but so far in some wells it's not been financially viable to drill but there is still vast amount of areas yet to be explored with a it looks like a lot been found in the Isobel well
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Our deterrent is small and insignificant against the one power we are really talking about, Russia. Our arsenal would not deter them. Even if it got to it I believe we need permission from the US to fire ours and if we are at that point then frankly the number of missiles they have make ours meaningless. In reality, the US and Russia are the only ones who need nukes to cancel each other out, the rest of us are doing it for ego, notable exception of Israel which is a whole different story. So, IMO we are spending billions on massaging our ego. Daft.

Have you never heard the anti tiger spray argument?
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Thats not correct. Trident is capable of hitting all the major Russian population areas and destroying them, it's a major weapon of last resort. Regarding the UK not having independent use of the war heads, there is no proof of this claim.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
It's a nuclear warhead - each one can destroy a city at the flick of a switch and yes it does deter - ego's ?! Sorry but that's nonsense - it serves a purpose and part of strategic plans and within NATO and the UN - they are they for military reasons not ego's

It's not just the US and Russia and hasnt been for a long time.
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It's not nonsense, it is opinion and one widely held by the anti Trident brigade. I happen to agree with it. Anti Trident people tend to view your opinion as equally dubious. It does not make it invalid but that is the split on this debate.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
It's not nonsense, it is opinion and one widely held by the anti Trident brigade. I happen to agree with it. Anti Trident people tend to view your opinion as equally dubious. It does not make it invalid but that is the split on this debate.
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But the "anti " brigade appear to not really provide the factual basis to support some claims - for example calling the warheads "insignificant" yet we have enough to to destroy countries. Is that really "insignificant" ?

I guess they also don't mind living under the protection they provide.
 
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