The Apprentice

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Maybe she just couldn't get a break or finance to get her idea of the ground

It's very hard these days to get businesses of the ground and running

Maybe she really enjoyed her job but wanted a crack at moving on

She would have impressed at one stage to get to the show

Just don't think we should close of on people because of what they do as a job

Absolutely with you on this LP. Whilst those on the show love talking up what they can do; have done; experience etc - the tasks they are required to do actually don't really require them to have much, if any, previous experience of it.

Rarely, it seems, does anyone proclaiming a task to be 'right up their street' actually make that much of a difference through using that experience. In truth I suspect that their expertise or previous experience is actually more of a hinderance as it steers their thinking down a particular route at the exclusion of 'better' or more lateral thinking from themselves and others. I can well imagine how our swimming instructor would have interviewed successfully - and in truth she might well have been overwhelmed and ultimately stuffed by the linear and dominant thinking of the others.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

And in fact she showed more integrity and honesty than most in there

:thup:

And as for Nurun - I found her just a bit spooky and frightening with her rather weird facial expressions of surprise, curiosity and barely suppressed anger

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I think one of the shows flaws is that many of the candidates are generally sales based.

I have always been a firm believer of the Lord Hanson train of thought........'any fool can sell, sales staff are 10 a penny, but wise buyers are thin on the ground'.

That is why I enjoy the 'market stall' episode, it generally sorts the wheat from the chaff.

 

[chrisd]

I think one of the shows flaws is that many of the candidates are generally sales based.

Sales based, they all all act like a bunch of numpties, I wouldn't entertain any of them trying to sell me something!

 

[CMAC]

I think one of the shows flaws is that many of the candidates are generally sales based.

I have always been a firm believer of the Lord Hanson train of thought........'any fool can sell, sales staff are 10 a penny, but wise buyers are thin on the ground'.

That is why I enjoy the 'market stall' episode, it generally sorts the wheat from the chaff.

disagree! any fool can try and sell, and any numpty can sell tenners for a fiver but good 'listening' sales people are hard to get.

The "I can sell anything to anyone" market trader guy on the show is coming across as one of the worst salespeople in attitude and figures

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The reason why they lost last night was because of the "sales" person and his flogging and Fire sale stuff

 

[fundy]

no one was saying she couldn't. however, maybe the Apprentice was not the right show for her, dragons den may have been better. Apprentice is IMHO for battle hardened sales or at least business professionals.

come on Scott, better bait needed surely. The show is for wannabe celebrities and young supposedly trendy people who think they know what they are talking about but actually just blag their way through most things. Nearly all of them would die on their feet if put into a proper business scenario

 

[HomerJSimpson]

come on Scott, better bait needed surely. The show is for wannabe celebrities and young supposedly trendy people who think they know what they are talking about but actually just blag their way through most things. Nearly all of them would die on their feet if put into a proper business scenario

I like the Big Brother in suits analogy. As Marillion once said... "all the best freaks are here" At the end of the day I personally think Sugar knows who he wants from a very early stage and it's all game playing until the end. There is always the big interview stage and review of the CV when we get to the final few with business experts and it must have been done in the processing stage to select the candidates even if it hasn't gone into as much detail. I doubt very much that Sugar would risk that amount of money of someone based solely on a performance week by week on a TV shoe made for entertainmetnt

 

[Smiffy]

She seems to have one eye looking at you, and one eye looking past you.

Is she related to Ian Poulter by any chance???

 

[Blue in Munich]

I think one of the shows flaws is that many of the candidates are generally sales based.

I have always been a firm believer of the Lord Hanson train of thought........'any fool can sell, sales staff are 10 a penny, but wise buyers are thin on the ground'.

That is why I enjoy the 'market stall' episode, it generally sorts the wheat from the chaff.

disagree! any fool can try and sell, and any numpty can sell tenners for a fiver but good 'listening' sales people are hard to get.

The "I can sell anything to anyone" market trader guy on the show is coming across as one of the worst salespeople in attitude and figures

I'm not sure that anyone can sell me anything, because if I've got to the stage of going to buy something I've already sold myself on the fact that I want it. However the sales person I meet can quite often easily convince me to buy the item elsewhere by their attitude; I'd definitely agree that good listening sales people are hard to get.

 

[Rooter]

come on Scott, better bait needed surely. The show is for wannabe celebrities and young supposedly trendy people who think they know what they are talking about but actually just blag their way through most things. Nearly all of them would die on their feet if put into a proper business scenario

No you are correct, if it was not a televised circus, my comment would have been correct. In the early days of the show, (ie the first maybe 3 years) my statement was correct, it is now however as you say entertainment filled with Z list wannabee's.

I still watch it though for the cringe! love the cringe!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I still watch it though for the cringe! love the cringe!

I do also - but I felt a bit uncomfortable for the Lindsey lass in the Boardroom this week - that was - rarely I think for the programme - emotionally truthful.

 

[CMAC]

I do also - but I felt a bit uncomfortable for the Lindsey lass in the Boardroom this week - that was - rarely I think for the programme - emotionally truthful.

and Sugar picked up on that also with his "with regret, you're fired"

 

[garyinderry]

"I can sell ice to the Eskimos''


Good, get out. If I am in business I want repeat sales. Not a one off con.

 

[CMAC]

I like the Big Brother in suits analogy. As Marillion once said... "all the best freaks are here" At the end of the day I personally think Sugar knows who he wants from a very early stage and it's all game playing until the end. There is always the big interview stage and review of the CV when we get to the final few with business experts and it must have been done in the processing stage to select the candidates even if it hasn't gone into as much detail. I doubt very much that Sugar would risk that amount of money of someone based solely on a performance week by week on a TV shoe made for entertainmetnt

you think about them constantly dont ya!:ears:

 

[pokerjoke]

I absolutely love the apprentice you get some amazing characters.
However once the trash and the fame seekers are out there are some great business brains
amongst them.
Nick Hewer was on BBBC breakfast the other day saying that Lord Sugar had started up four
businesses since the format was changed and there all making money.
Also Lord Sugar sees there business idea and im sure he has some sort of idea who will go
far and who will be leaving early,at the end of the day hes in it to make money because greed
breeds greed.
I read a story once in a Zig Zigler book that in America 7 or so billionaires died in or around
the year 2000 and when they died they were all still trying to make money.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

and Sugar picked up on that also with his "with regret, you're fired"

yes he did didn't he - and I think his general demeanor and words of criticism before firing her were kinder and much less damning than normal.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

A triple firing last week - get in there! And oooh - the grovelling by Ella Jade - cringe

 

[Rooter]

A triple firing last week - get in there! And oooh - the grovelling by Ella Jade - cringe

Oh god i know, i had an ex like that many years ago. get some self respect love!

 

[vkurup]

For those who thought that a team named 'Decadence' was a bad idea... Came across this in kent last weekend..




If he loses his way then I wont blame him..