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guest100718
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Texting? surely you are all snapchatting or something else these days.
Alex1975
Tour Winner
Ah that explains the white knuckle ride to Blackmoor for the 2012 H4H day
That was me being considerate....
Didnt we sit in traffic most of the way... And I am sure you egged me on to beat Ian there!
Thought this was a crass piece of US Billboard advertising
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guest100718
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er..it's fake...
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Deleted Member 1156
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certainly going the same direction as the first thread
Sadly it is Phil which is a pity because I have a genuine interest in peoples attitudes to this seeing as I drive 60 miles a day on dual carriageways and motorways. With the flippant attitude shown by woody's comment above I seriously fear for my safety
er...you must be a hoot at parties
CheltenhamHacker
Journeyman Pro
Sadly it is Phil which is a pity because I have a genuine interest in peoples attitudes to this seeing as I drive 60 miles a day on dual carriageways and motorways. With the flippant attitude shown by woody's comment above I seriously fear for my safety
This doesn't make sense to me. From the drivers you currently see on the road, do you fear for your own safety? If no, it may be reasonable to assume some of them are texting, and if you can't tell this from the way they drive, there isn't much to fear.
I wouldn't get scared of the roads because of some talk on the internet. I'm much for fearful for my safety on the roads having seen the general ability of drivers, and how distracted they get. Having seen many parents being distracted by kids in the car, this would scare me more (legality ignored)
woody69
Journeyman Pro
Sadly it is Phil which is a pity because I have a genuine interest in peoples attitudes to this seeing as I drive 60 miles a day on dual carriageways and motorways. With the flippant attitude shown by woody's comment above I seriously fear for my safety
It was a flippant comment in response to a nonsense post (IMVHO). Just because I OCCASIONALLY send a text whilst I am driving, doesn't mean I need to meet with families of people killed on the road because of someone using their phone. I am fully aware of the risks, and as I have said time and time again I am happy to take it and can appreciate the potential consequences if something does go wrong. The same way I am happy to take a risk simply getting in the car to drive to work, or occasionally speeding, or overtaking someone, or eating a sandwich or taking a sip from a drink all whilst in the car.
North Mimms
Tour Winner
Last week I was a passenger as my husband drove a third of the way round the M25 in heavy but moving traffic.
We drove alongside a bloke who had his phone in his hand , thumbing away, for the best part of 15 miles.
I saw at least 4 other people using phones in a similar fashion- they might have been texting, reading texts or looking at kittens on skateboards on Youtube- whatever... it wasn't a good idea.
So loads of people do it.
And Loads of people shouldn't.
woody69
Journeyman Pro
Oh no, here we go again. The debate had moved on from the simple texting while driving question.
My take on it was that Woody said (honestly) that he SOMETIMES does this when on a straight road etc with minimal risk which he would fully consider before doing it and would never advocate doing it in traffic etc. We all agree it IS distracting and it DOES increase the risk. Despite being illegal, MOST drivers make similar decisions every day like deciding to do 80mph or more on a quiet motorway. I was defending Woody's view not because it's OK to text but because he was being pilloried for being honest on the subject by the "never break the law - ever" brigade when what he was actually saying he did (as opposed to what people think he said), despite being illegal would involve negligible extra risk.
Right, just got that in before the mods delete this one too!!
Succinctly put, thank you.
CheltenhamHacker
Journeyman Pro
Not disagreeing with you their NM. My point was purely in respect of d4s "fearing for his/her safety". I was just pointing out that if d4s didn't fear for it before from what they had seen, don't change that based on a single comment on an online forum.
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guest100718
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er...you must be a hoot at parties
Try posting something funny then.
As I posted in the original thread, having had a parent that knocked over and seriously injured a kid, many years before mobiles, I know how the guilt of a moments lapse of concentration and the consequences can weigh extremely heavy. It's only once an accident occurs and that the driver has to live with the same guilt that the foolishness of the act (texting) will become abundantly clear. That's the same for drink drivers too. Both are illegal and I'd love to see the penalties for each made far harsher. Bans are often flaunted and fines are not always sufficient. I think there has to be more options open to prosecute and make a real statement to any drivers caught breaking the law
I'll leave that to you and your fabulous posts
MegaSteve
Tour Winner
To help in relieving the massive overcrowding, on the roads, loss of licence for every 'nick' would be a good step forward
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It's really sad that a few people on here really don't understand how dangerous their actions are.
So you are driving along, nice big gap to the car in front, pull out your phone to send a text. Slight lapse in concentration and you veer slightly to your right which causes the guy overtaking you in the outside lane to end up in the central reservation. Several cars then pile into him.
But's it's OK, your wife knows you are on your way home and dinner will be on the table when you arrive so happy days.
Excellent 'calculated risk' :thup:
So you are driving along, nice big gap to the car in front, pull out your phone to send a text. Slight lapse in concentration and you veer slightly to your right which causes the guy overtaking you in the outside lane to end up in the central reservation. Several cars then pile into him.
But's it's OK, your wife knows you are on your way home and dinner will be on the table when you arrive so happy days.
Excellent 'calculated risk' :thup:
chris661
Money List Winner
er...you must be a hoot at parties
You see this is the sort of crap that results in threads being closed and infractions being issued. Enough is enough please.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
It's obviously a risk even getting out of bed in the morning let alone driving down the M1 sending a text.
Surely, as drivers, we should be looking to minimise the risks we take?
Leaving aside the legality for a moment, driving at 80 on a clear motorway is a relatively small increased risk from driving at 70 - bearing in mind that of your speedo reads 80 you're probably doing less than 75 anyway.
Texting while driving adds enormously to the multitude of risks involved in driving.
And the one thing that is paramount is your ability to react to something that happens ahead of you.
You might be in perfect control of your car, happily driving along and sending a text.
It's the car that loses control in front of you, has a blow-out and swerves, or the car that's jumping a red light or pulling out when you least expect it or your car having a blow-pot that's going to get you.
In those instances your reaction times increase dramatically if you are distracted by something.
Yes you can get distracted by anything, happens to us all, but shouldn't we me minimising these risks/distractions by not doing some things that potentially distract..?
It comes down to the saying " just because you can, doesn't mean you should"
Surely, as drivers, we should be looking to minimise the risks we take?
Leaving aside the legality for a moment, driving at 80 on a clear motorway is a relatively small increased risk from driving at 70 - bearing in mind that of your speedo reads 80 you're probably doing less than 75 anyway.
Texting while driving adds enormously to the multitude of risks involved in driving.
And the one thing that is paramount is your ability to react to something that happens ahead of you.
You might be in perfect control of your car, happily driving along and sending a text.
It's the car that loses control in front of you, has a blow-out and swerves, or the car that's jumping a red light or pulling out when you least expect it or your car having a blow-pot that's going to get you.
In those instances your reaction times increase dramatically if you are distracted by something.
Yes you can get distracted by anything, happens to us all, but shouldn't we me minimising these risks/distractions by not doing some things that potentially distract..?
It comes down to the saying " just because you can, doesn't mean you should"
woody69
Journeyman Pro
You are of course correct, that such an incident could occur. But it could also happen because said person tries to light a cigarette or fails to check their blind spot and pulls out or swerves to avoid hitting an animal or something in the road. Getting in a car is a potentially dangerous thing and people make mistakes and accidents happen. Perhaps I have an unrealistic view on my driving abilities and coordinated activity of sending a text and driving, but not once have I ever felt out of control.
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guest100718
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The difference being that lighting a fag insn't against the law, nor swerving to avoid hitting a crazy badger. I'd probably juts stop arguing the toss if I were you. Non one is very likely to come out and say its Ok to text.
