Toby_LeRhone
Head Pro
If I was the OP, with a 45 deg 10i, I'd get a 50 deg gap wedge.
Talk to me about bounce
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colint
Tour Rookie
Totally agree, you can get a much more consistent result with the correct loft rather than opening the face etc. A 60 degree is no more difficult to use than any other club, why should it be ? How do you know how mucg loft you've put on a club by opening the face ? If you don't know how much loft there is, you can't get reliable distance or shot shape
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
The problem I find with opening up a 56 (or similar) is that opening the face will increase the bounce angle.
Considering a 56 is intended as a sand wedge, most will already have a fair amount of bounce, and opening the face to me just makes the leading edge of the club closer to the middle of the ball.
It might be more psychological than anything else but I feel far more comfortable with a low bounce 60 in those situations.
Agree 100% with Robobum as well. Making sure you get on the green with your first chip will save you more shots than trying to land the ball a foot from the other side of the bunker to get it stone dead.
Considering a 56 is intended as a sand wedge, most will already have a fair amount of bounce, and opening the face to me just makes the leading edge of the club closer to the middle of the ball.
It might be more psychological than anything else but I feel far more comfortable with a low bounce 60 in those situations.
Agree 100% with Robobum as well. Making sure you get on the green with your first chip will save you more shots than trying to land the ball a foot from the other side of the bunker to get it stone dead.
goldenbare
Challenge Tour Pro
totally agree again, even with the lob you can practice clock face drills for distance, my 10 oclock with lob is spot on 20yds, 9 oclock 12 yds for the flop over the bunker. commit to the shot but don't get wristy, let the angle get it up
Don't bother if there is nothing in the way, play the percentage shot
pokerjoke
Money List Winner
The 60 degree lob wedge is a fantastic club to have,the key is to use it only when all options to get it rolling quickly are gone.Over bunkers its ideal if the conditions are right,i find it ideal with a cushion of grass to slide under,the other thing is you have to keep your weight on the front foot.Off really hard ground in my opinion your better off using another club.Commit to the shot your trying to play as being to cute can cost dearly.I practice with my 60 degree more than any club in my bag,this allows you to see what shots this club is best at,but also tells you what not to use it for.Imo used properly its better to have one and not need it,than to need it and not have it.
jammydodger
Tour Winner
Robobum said :-
Listen to this man , he knows what he's talking about. A 60 is no harder or easier to hit than any other club. A sound technique and commitment to the shot is all that is needed. People knife it or fat it cos their technique is crap or they lose their bottle on the shot.
Most times the shot they see in their head is way beyond their talent to play it
Listen to this man , he knows what he's talking about. A 60 is no harder or easier to hit than any other club. A sound technique and commitment to the shot is all that is needed. People knife it or fat it cos their technique is crap or they lose their bottle on the shot.
Most times the shot they see in their head is way beyond their talent to play it
Owen_Thomas_14
Journeyman Pro
60 degree is my favourite club to use... great for those 10 yard flop shots as well .
Personal i would get a cheap one and see if you like them or not. If you do you will find you will use it a lot with good effect if you practice with it. If you dont like it then you havent lost much(if you get a cheap one)
.Personal i would get a cheap one and see if you like them or not. If you do you will find you will use it a lot with good effect if you practice with it. If you dont like it then you havent lost much(if you get a cheap one)
daymond
Tour Rookie
I agree with the last three here. I have a large,fairly heavy 60* lob wedge and would'nt be without it. I love to see players facing a 15 yard shot over a bunker to a fast downhill lie green. You can see them thinking 'how on earth do I stop this on the green'
Aztecs27
Money List Winner
Bounce required is more dependent on whether you're a Digger or a Slider ?
ie do you take Big Divots, or hardly at all ?
Digger = More Bounce Slider = less Bounce.
I have always carried a 60degree Lob Wedge, and really dont know why people find them hard to use ??
Mine has 4* Bounce, and I rarely use it from more than 40yds, but mostly just around the green, where I find it invaluable to get the ball up and over bunkers etc.
The Flop shot isnt difficult, you just need to keep everything 'quiet' as you slide the Lob Wedge under the ball....... never a problem for me, altho I concede that I have a lot more experience than the OP.
Macster the Slider.
I don't have a problem with my lob wedge per se, save the shots that get underneath the ball and pops straight up and down
, but I find I can do the same stuff with my 56 and am more consistent/confident with it. Infact, until I got my 52 and 56, the 60 did most of the work from 60 yards and in. It's got a bounce of 10, which, like you say is for the diggers (like me). I tend to rearrange the fairway when I hit mine.
They certainly have their uses, but I see (and know) a lot of people who have gone out and bought a 60* because they "need more loft" and can't use it.
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
Another advantage to having a lob wedge is a 30 ish yard pitch shot that you want to stop quick. You can hit it harder because of the extra loft which gets more spin on it.
Not every shot with a lob wedge has to go high.
Not every shot with a lob wedge has to go high.
AuburnWarrior
Tour Winner
A 60 degree lob wedge is no harder to hit than any other club. Around the green it's all about hitting a confident, commited shot. No more so than when you're hitting over a bunker/obstacle.
The fatting/thinning occurs because of poor weight distribution, not the club.
When hitting your chips/lobs, put 100% of your weight on your left side, make a fully commited swing and you'll never thin another shot.
The fatting/thinning occurs because of poor weight distribution, not the club.
When hitting your chips/lobs, put 100% of your weight on your left side, make a fully commited swing and you'll never thin another shot.
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
I used to have a 64. It was mental. You could make the ball disappear up your nostil if you opened the face a tad.
AuburnWarrior
Tour Winner
Why the hell would you open the face of a 64 degree wedge??
What were you trying to get over??
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Snelly
Guest
I am in complete agreement with this. I use my 60 degree wedge for just about every chip or pitch inside 70 yards and to good effect. I get up and down more often than I don't and can hit it quite low with some spin or high with a soft bounce.
It isn't so much about the degree of loft, more to do with confidence, practice and sound technique.
Cheers,
Snelly.
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
There was a kidney shaped green, bunkers either side, about 12 ft wide in the middle, raised about 6 ft. If you missed the green, you needed to get it up, and land it dead. 64 was perfect.
Now I don't play there I threw it in a wheelie bin.
Now I don't play there I threw it in a wheelie bin.
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Alex1975
Guest
I have a question that is not about the 60* blob wedge, but I wont put a 60* in my bag again for the record.
I have two really great wedges, they have great feel and do a great job, they are 50-08 & 56-10. My issue is that they do not go very far, the 56 will only go about 65 yards and the 50 only about 80 yards. Now thats no problem as I will and am getting used to that but I have seen my buddy hit the 56 110 yards. If I try to push it to that it just goes higher. Is that about the bounce?
Thx
Al
I have two really great wedges, they have great feel and do a great job, they are 50-08 & 56-10. My issue is that they do not go very far, the 56 will only go about 65 yards and the 50 only about 80 yards. Now thats no problem as I will and am getting used to that but I have seen my buddy hit the 56 110 yards. If I try to push it to that it just goes higher. Is that about the bounce?
Thx
Al
robbest3offthetee
Tour Rookie
Alex, I would have thought that its to do with spin,the harder you try to hit it the more spin you get,why try to hit it 110 yds anyway,thats what you have a pw for....
didn't we go though this last week?
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Alex1975
Guest
Ye the 110 was just for me to see how far it would go. I guess your right about the spin. Thanks for the comments.
ScienceBoy
Money List Winner
Swing plane? Shaft? Poor grooves?
Many causes for this. Best thing is to know YOUR yardages inside and and forget what other people hit.
I am currently working on my full yardages for my new clubs, these are what I estimate before I head out to test them (based on experience)
9 iron unknown but I guess about 130 as its 43*
PW = unknown but I guess about 110 as its 47*
52 = 80 yards
56 = 65 yards
60 = 45 yards
Above 9 it starts to become flight plus roll, an 8 iron is 140 plus roll, a 7 is 150 plus roll, a 6 is 160 plus roll.
I also predict that gripping down half an inch on the 9 can take it to 120 and doing the same on the PW takes it to about 100 and one inch for 90 yards. This is the system I use to handle my yardages.
I just know my new clubs are going to behave very different but lets hope the changes are all gains! I think the new clubs will impart much more spin so I will have to modify my 8 iron + system as I think they will now bite as the flight should be higher and the better quality groves impart more spin.
