Talk to me about bounce

Last Sunday I hit my 50 degree 140 yards. Beautiful strike, great flight, awesome. Trouble is, it usually goes 100 yards, so my next shot was from the trees. With wedges, it isn't about distance, it's about accuracy.
 
Last Sunday I hit my 50 degree 140 yards. Beautiful strike, great flight, awesome. Trouble is, it usually goes 100 yards, so my next shot was from the trees. With wedges, it isn't about distance, it's about accuracy.

Absolutely!!

I don't care how far I can hit my PW/GW/LW - no interest at all in maximum distances.

All I'm interested in is being as close to the hole as is possible in 1.

My rule of thumb is anything over 100 yards and it's probably a 9 iron.

50 - 100 yards PW
20 - 50 yards GW
20 yards or height needed LW
 
Yep as I said, dont care about the yardage, just interested why its so much less than with my old Wilson SW, its spin for sure.
 
Could be a difference in shaft length and a difference in loft - real loft not what it says on the sole. Worn, blunt grooves will put less spin on the ball than sharp ones too.

I almost get too much spin from my CG 15's - they're crazy. Got 15 feet of backspin the other day - what bloody use is that when you pitch pin-high?
 
Could be a difference in shaft length and a difference in loft - real loft not what it says on the sole. Worn, blunt grooves will put less spin on the ball than sharp ones too.

I almost get too much spin from my CG 15's - they're crazy. Got 15 feet of backspin the other day - what bloody use is that when you pitch pin-high?

Learn to pitch 15 foot past?? :D
 
My issue is that they do not go very far, the 56 will only go about 65 yards

Hitting it harder means higher and further surely?

I think that 65 yards for an iron with this loft is below average distance and you should have a concern about this if this level of power is reflected in all your other shots? i.e. is it just your wedges that have this distance or do you hit an 8 iron 115 yards too?

If so, your picture shows you as a relatively young, fit bloke and you should probably be hitting it further with all the clubs so a more general malaise is perhaps the issue rather than specifically the loft of your wedges..

Sorry if this sounds blunt or offends - not my intention.

And I don't really agree with the "not how far but how accurate" comments. Having more power combined with accuracy makes courses easier and that counts for wedges, just the same as woods or long irons.... but then again, I suppose I would say that as I give it a good smack...
 
The 60 degree lob wedge is simply one of the best clubs to have in your bag. I think everyone should have one they can be used for all kinds of shots inside imo 30 yards and a club that can easily practised you dont need a lot of room to practise it and you can play fancy tricky little shots with it that will benefit your game on the course.

IMHO if you do not have one in your bag you are missing out mahooosive style....
 
The 60 degree lob wedge is simply one of the best clubs to have in your bag. I think everyone should have one they can be used for all kinds of shots inside imo 30 yards and a club that can easily practised you dont need a lot of room to practise it and you can play fancy tricky little shots with it that will benefit your game on the course.

IMHO if you do not have one in your bag you are missing out mahooosive style....

Totally agree with this... well said Screwback.
 
The 60 degree lob wedge is simply one of the best clubs to have in your bag. I think everyone should have one they can be used for all kinds of shots inside imo 30 yards and a club that can easily practised you dont need a lot of room to practise it and you can play fancy tricky little shots with it that will benefit your game on the course.

IMHO if you do not have one in your bag you are missing out mahooosive style....

If I can come in low, I'll go for the 51* every time but the 60* is a gem from lush lies or when needing to traverse an obstacle.
 
My issue is that they do not go very far, the 56 will only go about 65 yards

Hitting it harder means higher and further surely?

I think that 65 yards for an iron with this loft is below average distance and you should have a concern about this if this level of power is reflected in all your other shots? i.e. is it just your wedges that have this distance or do you hit an 8 iron 115 yards too?

If so, your picture shows you as a relatively young, fit bloke and you should probably be hitting it further with all the clubs so a more general malaise is perhaps the issue rather than specifically the loft of your wedges..

Sorry if this sounds blunt or offends - not my intention.

And I don't really agree with the "not how far but how accurate" comments. Having more power combined with accuracy makes courses easier and that counts for wedges, just the same as woods or long irons.... but then again, I suppose I would say that as I give it a good smack...


Thanks for all that but no, I am not short with my other irons, as was said and worked out in the 1st comment after my post, its the spin on the club. Its not a problem as all yardage is covered.

BTW, what photo or pic?
 
Do you actually need to be going at a pin in that position? I'm assuming you didn't hit your ball there deliberately (if you did you need to think about course management not how much bounce your wedge has :D) in which case you'll probably save yourself shots going past the pin and taking your chance with a longer putt - take your medicine as they say.

If I gave you 10 shots like the ones you're talking about and you played 10 with a 60deg wedge trying to get close and 10 with your SW and going past the flag I reckon you'd score better with your 10 SW shots, at least I reckon I would. For every time you get up and down with the 60 deg wedge there'd probably be at least the same number of times you land in the bunker and end up getting down in 4

I carry 4 wedges but there are times and places for 60deg wedges, you have to know when to use it.
 
Reading through all the comments I really feel it could help my game, so I want to give it a try.

So.. which one??

Was thinking of getting one of these: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MD-GOLF-NORMAN-NV-...48419f4fe03dadc

I already have an MD Superstrong 3 wood and really rate it.

Anyone got one? They seem to have good reviews. Or does anyone know of any good deals on wedges at the moment?

I've heard nothing but great things about these (some on here have them), and nearly bought a set of 3 wedges after Christmas. The only reason I didn't is because I had £160 worth of American Golf vouchers to spend and they don't sell MD clubs, so I got the Mizuno MPT-11's instead.
 
My issue is that they do not go very far, the 56 will only go about 65 yards

Hitting it harder means higher and further surely?

I think that 65 yards for an iron with this loft is below average distance and you should have a concern about this if this level of power is reflected in all your other shots? i.e. is it just your wedges that have this distance or do you hit an 8 iron 115 yards too?

If so, your picture shows you as a relatively young, fit bloke and you should probably be hitting it further with all the clubs so a more general malaise is perhaps the issue rather than specifically the loft of your wedges..

Sorry if this sounds blunt or offends - not my intention.

And I don't really agree with the "not how far but how accurate" comments. Having more power combined with accuracy makes courses easier and that counts for wedges, just the same as woods or long irons.... but then again, I suppose I would say that as I give it a good smack...


Thanks for all that but no, I am not short with my other irons, as was said and worked out in the 1st comment after my post, its the spin on the club. Its not a problem as all yardage is covered.

BTW, what photo or pic?

My mistake - confused you with Aztec.

I don't understand how the spin a club generates affects distance to this extent but you seem happy with the answers given so all good there.

Snelly.
 
My issue is that they do not go very far, the 56 will only go about 65 yards

Hitting it harder means higher and further surely?

I think that 65 yards for an iron with this loft is below average distance and you should have a concern about this if this level of power is reflected in all your other shots? i.e. is it just your wedges that have this distance or do you hit an 8 iron 115 yards too?

If so, your picture shows you as a relatively young, fit bloke and you should probably be hitting it further with all the clubs so a more general malaise is perhaps the issue rather than specifically the loft of your wedges..

Sorry if this sounds blunt or offends - not my intention.

And I don't really agree with the "not how far but how accurate" comments. Having more power combined with accuracy makes courses easier and that counts for wedges, just the same as woods or long irons.... but then again, I suppose I would say that as I give it a good smack...


Thanks for all that but no, I am not short with my other irons, as was said and worked out in the 1st comment after my post, its the spin on the club. Its not a problem as all yardage is covered.

BTW, what photo or pic?

My mistake - confused you with Aztec.

I don't understand how the spin a club generates affects distance to this extent but you seem happy with the answers given so all good there.

Snelly.

Young and fit? You're such a charmer! You must be a hit with the laydeez! :D
 
All well and good for the low and ultra low cappers saying how useful and easy a 60 deg is to use, it's the best club in the bag etc. But, for someone who is relatively new to golf I am in the camp of those who think it is more likely to cost shots overall!

How many times do actually need to play that up and down over a bunker to a tight pin position? Not that often I would wager and when you do, get your sand iron out and just simply make sure you get over the bunker and onto the green, then putt for par!

For a beginner and/or high handicapper usually the shot with least risk is best and that means get the ball rolling ASAP.

I got a 60 deg when I first started but soon realised it was costing more than it was benefitting me, it goes back in the bag now only if playing a course with nice fluffy grass around the greens. And that only after a lot of practice to get the confidence required.

You have to commit to the stroke and hit through the ball, that takes a bit of getting used to when you are only 10 or 15 yards from the green, quit on the stroke and invariably you are using your sand wedge next shot after all! ;)
 
Peaty, you say you've only been playing for 4 months, two of which were probably snow bound and have had 3 lessons.
What were the lessons on?
 
I think that 65 yards for an iron with this loft is below average distance and you should have a concern about this if this level of power is reflected in all your other shots? i.e. is it just your wedges that have this distance or do you hit an 8 iron 115 yards too?

If so, your picture shows you as a relatively young, fit bloke and you should probably be hitting it further with all the clubs so a more general malaise is perhaps the issue rather than specifically the loft of your wedges..

Sorry if this sounds blunt or offends - not my intention.

And I don't really agree with the "not how far but how accurate" comments. Having more power combined with accuracy makes courses easier and that counts for wedges, just the same as woods or long irons.... but then again, I suppose I would say that as I give it a good smack...

I disagree here Snelly, I firmly believe that if the player strikes the ball fairly well it is more about knowing your yardages than how far you can belt it.

I only hit my 52 about 80 yards, very high and spins back. I can hit it further and sometimes it comes up short but most of the time it is about 80. So 80 is its distance.

Wedges are all about accuracy! I have a 5 wood and a driver for distance but once I get a low iron in my hand I want to know that I can stick it pin high!

I also belive there is nothing wrong hitting an 8 from 115, as long as the 8 is the club for the job, hit it.

It has no reflection on the driver swing, I have seen many old gents hit 190 yards as their longest drive then stick a 8 iron to about 10 feet because the know their yardage.
 
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