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4.99%......did he used to work in retail
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Surrey County Council - Social Care - Referendum
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4.99%......did he used to work in retail
bobmac
Major Champion
That's the biggest increase he can get without a referendum
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
And something else that Corbyn let go due to his utter incompetence. He had May on a hook over this at PMQs - and let her off.
And so today - this barely registers in the news. When the Tories concocting a behind the scenes special deal with a Tory council to avoid government embarrassment is in fact a big deal. But like the halt on accepting child refugees also announced yesterday - it drops almost out of sight amidst the Art50 vote and assault on the Speaker.
Errm. It led the news last night, he led PMQ's with it yesterday.
What is lacking is a coordinated follow up to give it legs. That is where the organisational skills, lack of quality, lack of cohesiveness is at the moment.
What is lacking is a coordinated follow up to give it legs. That is where the organisational skills, lack of quality, lack of cohesiveness is at the moment.
londonlewis
Tour Rookie
I'm moving out of Surrey.
Can't get on board with someone wanting to take even more of my money. Not with the massive inefficiencies within county council spending.
Can't get on board with someone wanting to take even more of my money. Not with the massive inefficiencies within county council spending.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Looks like the smell is pretty much country wide; 147 out of 151 Councils planning to hike the tax.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...il-country-hike-council-tax-fund-social-care/
So Tashy, still stand by the dig or do you accept that there is actually an issue?
Tashyboy
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There has been an issue for years, yet nobody has put up council taxes to pay for this until, all of a sudden they all do it bar four councils. How many councillors have sat down at there meetings re setting next years council tax and said " well if Surrey is struggling, so are we". What figures have they been looking at for the last 10 years re cost of caring. My point/ dig was. That Surrey a Tory stronghold was offered a nice big fat under the table wad of cash to keep it nice and quiet. Were the other 146 councils offered the same wad. Nope.
Below is a copy and paste from the link you have provided. That is my point.
It follows a major row over Tory-run Surrey council, which had been threatening to hold a referendum on whether to increase council tax by 15 per cent.
Theresa May was accused by Labour of offering Surrey a “sweetheart deal†allowing it to keep 100 per cent of business rates in order to abandon plans for the referendum.
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The southern more affluent areas and moreso inner London pay much less council tax than a lot of us do elsewhere so they have no grounds to complain imo.
I've just been informed we're getting a 5% increase from April and they are cutting back on services to us!
So more money for less 😡
I've just been informed we're getting a 5% increase from April and they are cutting back on services to us!
So more money for less 😡
londonlewis
Tour Rookie
You got any facts to back that up?
Checking it by council is easy on the Gov.uk's own website.
londonlewis
Tour Rookie
I've started to look and actually the argument seems fair.
Although the cheap council tax areas seem to be in London, not Surrey.
Westminster is less than half mine, quickly followed by Fulham, Pimlico, Kensington and Islington is even £500 lower and that was just a glance, infact, 8 of England’s 10 cheapest areas for council tax are in the capital!
There are many reports and tables that clearly show London and the Home Counties are much lower than cities in the Midlands and north and most of the South East is even lower than mine also. How can A £1m pad in the south have 50% less rates than a semi in Coventry?
Take 2 properties in 2 Grosvenor Roads: one worth £200,000 and one worth £2m. There are many differences, but one startling distinction is that residents in the multimillion-pound house pay £1,000 less in council tax each year than those in the cheaper property.
That’s because people living in exclusive Grosvenor Road in Westminster, London, pay the least council tax in England. The occupants of Grosvenor Road in Weymouth, Dorset, pay the most, at £1,726 annually.
How's that work?
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Tashyboy
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Without stating the obvious Fish, if you have picked up on this how comes Mr Corbyn and others haven't and rammed it down Missis Mays throat. Coz quite frankly it stinks. If we're all In it together then fair enough, but seems to me that some are not even near it, never mind in it.
Old Skier
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Because the likes of Mr Corbyn and others live or own said houses.
CheltenhamHacker
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You're ignoring how expensive it is to live in areas like Westminster or other inner London areas. You may save a bit on council tax, but that's much much more than offset by rent/mortgage.
CheltenhamHacker
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In fact, read the article http://www.mindtheflat.co.uk/living-in-london/what-is-the-logic-behind-london-council-tax/
Very interesting and explains why there is such a disparity in council tax, including the obscene amount of "parking charges" the London councils receive. As it says, the residents still get charged, but in stealthier ways.
Blue in Munich
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Someone beat me to it. The concentration of residences probably has something to do with it was well. Take a bin round for example. Let's say the bin run is 20 miles long. It will probably cost pretty much the same to run either i town or in the sticks. However if the one in town picks up 4 times as many households then the cost per household is a quarter of that in the sticks.
Tashyboy
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well that's it then am moving to London village coz it's cheaper to have me bin emptied. Emptying bins has nowt to do with the cost of looking after the elderly which we should all pay for in equal amounts. Especially if you are paying less to have your bin emptied.
Compare somewhere like Westminster or leafy Surrey with central Liverpool or Sheffield. Those northern cities will have higher unemployment so fewer people pay council tax. Chances are the social issues are greater meaning you need more social workers and similar staff. Expand that over different issues and parts of council responsibilities. Less people paying money so they need to pay more per head. More costs for those councils so even higher bills. A perfect storm so the phrase goes.
bobmac
Major Champion
Not forgetting local councillors and MPs filling each others pockets
