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Looking for some feedback on Super GI Irons.

My iron play is what is really holding me back. Off the tee I am fine, my fairway woods are OK, my hybrids are my most consistant clubs and my play around the greens is improving.

My frustration is my long and mid irons.

I know that I will get no end of posts saying 'get some lessons' but that is just not an option at the moment. I have just started a new job so time for practice is minimal and I have just joined a new club so I am out on the course at weekends meeting new members and would not want to take a couple of weeks off to groove in some swing changes.

What I am looking for is a short term confidence boost, something that will give me a little for consistancy for a few months until I am settled in my new job and new club. After that I can consider some lessons and maybe moving back to my Clevelands.

Yes I know that super GI irons are big, ugly shovels but if they help me get the ball on the green then I am going to be happy.

Not looking to spend loads, looking more at the some bargains that are available. So far looking at Nike Machspeeds, Wilson Staff DI9/11 or even Callaway X18/20.

Anyone taken a similar step of any experience of these irons.
 
The problem I see here is no amount of "game improvement" in he irons is going to fix swing flaws/faults. Ultimately more practising*/playing is the only cure.








*as long as you practice the correct things.
 
I have the Wilson Staff Di11 irons and they are superb clubs in fact better than many GI clubs


I can also give you a tip that plagued me with poor iron work

1. make sure the basic set up is correct, pretty easy to get right, grip, stance, posture etc
2. Start downswing with lower body and NOT the upper body


If you can take onboard the turn hips first on downswing and let shoulders / arms follow you will improve quickly

Only took me 5 years and numerous lessons to discover this, result better ball striking, better distance

Hope it helps
 
Ive got some ping raptures which are super GI irons as well as the ones in my sig. The Pings are certainly easier to hit. The pings are lovely to hit I have 4-SW and I can hit all of them well, even the 4 iron I can hit well 80% of the time.

With my mizunos I hit 5 iron and above well maybe 60% of the time. I do find them a bit chunky and ugly at times but then I have seen a single figure handicap player use them at my old club, .

I got the mizunos in a good deal and when Im playing well I hit them just as well if not better than the pings. I struggle for consistency though and when I feel things going wrong I have been known to sneak the pings back out to boost my confidence.

Ive been tempted to sell my pings and golf bidder offered me a good price for them, but I always get the feeling I will regret selling them as they are a fantastic club and easy to hit flush.
 
I've heard good things about the Wilsons in recent times but never actually had any experience of them.

I have to say, you seemed to strike the ball well enough when we played a couple of months ago mate. Only thing I noticed was that your back swing looked a little long, but if you're not struggling with solid hits with your driver/fairways/hybrids etc. that's probably not an issue...What do I know, I hack it around!
 
GB72 said:
Anyone taken a similar step of any experience of these irons.
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My iron play is weak, man....like the short stuff is OK, but the mid-irons, just terrible.

Today, I "middle cut" almost every fairway with the big kit (driver/5w) and knocked 3 wedges close for 2/3 birdies. Sadly, my middle irons are just not happening.

Trouble is, I don't think you can win. Everytime I missed a damn green with an iron, it was because of a hook of some sort. I don't hook the ball with my Titleist CB 695 practise iron, but my Callaways are like, so anti-slice it's not funny.

X-18s are great, I even love K15, which I tried yesterday, but ultimately there's a trade off.

I wouldn't go back to Mizuno's since having my Callaways, but they are frustrating.


Oh, btw. Wilsons are quite forgiving, but the whole loft thing gets my goat.

I was down the range t'other day and there was some bloke talking incessantly about his new irons and how they go "so far" and "so sweet" and all the rest. We got chatting and hit a few. He thought he was quite good. He wasn't impressed with my 148 yard 7 irons, until he admitted to playing off 18.....'nuff said. :)
 
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Not been playing too long but traded my Ben Sayers in for Di11's and love them you do need the gap wedge though which came free with mine as PW - SW is a large gap.
 
chris661 said:
The problem I see here is no amount of "game improvement" in he irons is going to fix swing flaws/faults. Ultimately more practising*/playing is the only cure.
*as long as you practice the correct things.
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You are sooooooo right. I mean, all those golf club manufacturers since 1756 (or whenevr Ol Tom Morris was making clubs) are purely there to make money, not to innovate and make golf clubs easier to hit. In fact i dont know why they include those club wieghting stuff that gets balls up in the air, allows mishits to travel 90% of distance, etc etc etc . ?????

I can see all of the MDs of the big club manufacturers all just sitting there thinking "what am i doing this for " now that this amazing piece of logic has finally been confirmed.


The SUperGI clubs give you improved consistency due to a greater margin for error at impact, and a much smaller spread of results as a result.
They work very well for people with swing faults, and they work pretty well for the average top knotch Pro as well - over 72 holes, no-one can hit perfect shots 180 times in a row (par minus putts)

Sure, a blade can help you find your faults, and then get your swing on a track so that you hit the ball better more often; but the SGIs mean that when you dont (and you wont) hit it perfect, then you ar emuch closer to your target
 
sev112 said:
You are sooooooo right. I mean, all those golf club manufacturers since 1756 (or whenevr Ol Tom Morris was making clubs) are purely there to make money, not to innovate and make golf clubs easier to hit. In fact i dont know why they include those club wieghting stuff that gets balls up in the air, allows mishits to travel 90% of distance, etc etc etc . ?????
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Well tell me why the average handicap has hardly moved in the last however many years? GI and SGI clubs only partially mask faults that are there. The underlying issues are still there.
 
Average handicap hasnt moved for a whole rake of reasons, including the fact that lots of newbies join the game every year and dominate the figures, as you'll see when any range of numbers is dominated by the higher end of the range. So you always get loads of 28s coming in, but you dont get the same number of scratch players taking up the game. So over a period of time the number will always stagnate.

Also you know well that there are a number of facets to the game of golf, not just the main swing - apparently a very good player has had difficulty with his putting recently. So people's handicaps go up as well as down, and in fact handicaps are predicated on going up more often than they come down.

Will that do for starters ? :)
 
sev112 said:
Average handicap hasnt moved for a whole rake of reasons, including the fact that lots of newbies join the game every year and dominate the figures, as you'll see when any range of numbers is dominated by the higher end of the range. So you always get loads of 28s coming in, but you dont get the same number of scratch players taking up the game. So over a period of time the number will always stagnate.

Also you know well that there are a number of facets to the game of golf, not just the main swing - apparently a very good player has had difficulty with his putting recently. So people's handicaps go up as well as down, and in fact handicaps are predicated on going up more often than they come down.

Will that do for starters ? :)
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Always been new people taking the game up otherwise it would have died off very quickly. Still doesn't take away from the point that GI and SGI irons will only partially mask faults so when you think you are getting a bit better and change irons the same problems occur. Practice and playing are the only real ways to improve.
 
chris661 said:
Always been new people taking the game up otherwise it would have died off very quickly. Still doesn't take away from the point that GI and SGI irons will only partially mask faults so when you think you are getting a bit better and change irons the same problems occur. Practice and playing are the only real ways to improve.
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I certainly dont disagree with your statement there
 
Although Bubba, Oosterwhatsit, Westwood, Mickleson, all play GI irons, so (notwithstanding a bit of marketing encouragement from their sponsors) they probably are the right clubs to play for consistency and performance

It would be interesting to go down the rankings list and work out who is playing blades/musclebacks these days
 
sev112 said:
Although Bubba, Oosterwhatsit, Westwood, Mickleson, all play GI irons, so (notwithstanding a bit of marketing encouragement from their sponsors) they probably are the right clubs to play for consistency and performance

It would be interesting to go down the rankings list and work out who is playing blades/musclebacks these days
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Id Hardly say Mickleson was using GI irons............:confused:

http://www.callawaygolf.com/global/...golf-clubs/irons/razr-x-muscleback-irons.html
 
GB, I have to be honest and say it isn't the CG16's but definitely a swing flaw and I don't see how changing to GI or SGI clubs will help. I don't think you need any help getting the ball airborne (well not until recently) and so it has to be something in the swing. I appreciate your position on practice time etc but a single lesson for £40 has to be a better move than £200 on clubs you don't actually need. If you had the lesson and then hit a bucket of balls one Saturday you've not given up anything time wise apart from swapping a round and more frustration for a few hours on the practice ground and possible salvation
 
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