Stats - There is only 1 that matters.

[Deleted member 16999]

Like some have said everyone is different, using Game Golf for 12 months I believe it did help me bring my Handicap down by nearly 2 strokes in that time, i don't practise anymore or less but my practise time has been more focussed.
Not everyone on here puts there handicap on there signature but a quick glance on this thread shows the lowest and highest handicappers using stats and the 10-15 range don't, on the majority, use them.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The score is the only thjng that matters to me - haven't a clue what my stats are in terms of fir and GIR and putts per round etc. Doesnt really make a difference to me or my golf

 

[Deleted member 16999]

The score is the only thjng that matters to me - haven't a clue what my stats are in terms of fir and GIR and putts per round etc. Doesnt really make a difference to me or my golf

Of course the score is the only thing that matters in the end, but, I would suggest the level you've got has come through hardwork and the ability to recognise weakness's in yourself, that's the level I aspire to, but, if someone finds his stats useful as a tool to improve, then good luck to them, each to there own.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Of course the score is the only thing that matters in the end, but, I would suggest the level you've got has come through hardwork and the ability to recognise weakness's in yourself, that's the level I aspire to, but, if someone finds his stats useful as a tool to improve, then good luck to them, each to there own.

Oh I knew my weaknesses and could see exactly what they were without the need for stats

But being honest most club Amatuers stats aren't going to be impressive and imo generally will point to a weak area in all parts of the game for the majority of Amatuer club golfers - maybe bar the really low guys

Think the main issue we will always have that separates us from the pros is - consistency , they have the ability to hit the good shots every time from driving though to putting - we can't

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Oh I knew my weaknesses and could see exactly what they were without the need for stats

But being honest most club Amatuers stats aren't going to be impressive and imo generally will point to a weak area in all parts of the game for the majority of Amatuer club golfers - maybe bar the really low guys

Think the main issue we will always have that separates us from the pros is - consistency , they have the ability to hit the good shots every time from driving though to putting - we can't

Agreed, were it helped me was I would, for example, go to the range get 100 balls and hit 50-60 with the driver and the rest with most of the clubs, very little focus, because I felt the better I used my driver most other things would follow, what GG did was show me quite quickly that my driving wasn't too bad, but getting to the green in regulation was, I was wasting opportunities.
Also I have actual club distances built up over 80+ rounds not 10 shots at the range with each club.

 

[bluewolf]

Some people find stats helpful. No one thinks they're miracle workers. I've tailored my practice based on patterns I've noticed. I've changed club selections based on par percentages. BUT, at the end of the day, I'm hitting the shots.

If you don't want to get too in depth with stats, then fair enough, but every golfer uses them to some degree.

 

[bladeplayer]

Sorry Guys If any of ye (Myself included) think ye'r game or your swing is consistent enough that knowing stats will improve your game ,

In my honest and humble opinion and with the greatest respect ye are nuts ..

If ya need a stat to tell you any part of your game is bad .. ? oh Richat already said that sorry Rich ..


I had 18 putts im a good putter , well ya missed 18 greens & chipped dead each time so no ur a good chipper & ok putter ..

Missed 18 greens your mid/ long game must be bad , well i was in the clag & behind trees & didnt have much of a shot , so actually your driving is bad ..

Ok the scenario above is a bitt OTT but do u see the madness in it ..

 

[guest100718]

Sorry Guys If any of ye (Myself included) think ye'r game or your swing is consistent enough that knowing stats will improve your game ,

In my honest and humble opinion and with the greatest respect ye are nuts ..

If ya need a stat to tell you any part of your game is bad .. ? oh Richat already said that sorry Rich ..


I had 18 putts im a good putter , well ya missed 18 greens & chipped dead each time so no ur a good chipper & ok putter ..

Missed 18 greens your mid/ long game must be bad , well i was in the clag & behind trees & didnt have much of a shot , so actually your driving is bad ..

Ok the scenario above is a bitt OTT but do u see the madness in it ..

18 putts is a stat....

 

[bladeplayer]

18 putts is a stat....

OK it sure is but what does it tell you re my putting?


Apologies EDITED in the bit in red for clarity

 

[Imurg]

If I played a standard course and hit all the par 3 and 4's in regulation and the 4 par 5's in 2 then had 36 putts I would shoot 4 under par. Statistically, that is a bad putting day but who wouldn't accept that score?

But its only a bad putting day if the longest putt you had was 10 feet.
If, on every green, you left yourself 30 feet from the hole then I think you've had a good putting day.
And that's why any stat taken in isolation is flawed...

It is, however, all about the score.

I keep stats for fun really, I can look back and see how I was doing last year or the year before and you can see patterns emerging. For example, for the last 4 years I've averaged 30 putts per round - on its own a useless stat but it does show some consistency.

 

[guest100718]

OK it sure is but what does it tell you ?

you putted very well.....

 

[bladeplayer]

Nope coz i chipped in dead each time and tapped in.. Stat does not genuinely reflect my putting ability

 

[guest100718]

Nope coz i chipped in dead each time and tapped in.. Stat does not genuinely reflect my putting ability

Its does if you keep the correct stats

 

[bluewolf]

Nope coz i chipped in dead each time and tapped in.. Stat does not genuinely reflect my putting ability

So you're saying that you don't use stats then?

 

[CMAC]

Quite a sweeping statement really. The rest of US can make our own minds up thank you very much..

Oh, and knowing the percentages does not stop me from taking on the Hero shot from time to time.. :whoo:

you are spot on, should have said makes me happy. For the avoidance of doubt I wasn't including you in my statement

 

[bladeplayer]

So you're saying that you don't use stats then?

Im saying they can be misleading and at our level our games & swings are so inconsistant they are meaningless

 

[bluewolf]

Im saying they can be misleading and at our level our games & swings are so inconsistant they are meaningless

So if stats are meaningless at our level, then how do you know which club to use? You're stood on the tee of a 150yd Par 3. Are you really telling me that you're swing is so inconsistent that you would just guess at a club? Or would you use the experience of all your previous 150yd shots to assist your decision? Just because a stat isn't written down, doesn't mean you don't use it.
I use the stats I've recorded to make a "best guess" at the best way to improve. Some prefer not to record stats, but we all use them to some degree.

 

[bladeplayer]

Its does if you keep the correct stats

As in how many putts were

Putts under 5'/10'/15' v putts over 5' /10'/15'

putts downhill under 5'/10'/15'/ putts uphill over 5'/10'/15'

Putts on fast greens / putts on slow greens


Where do you stop to get an accurate stat .. genuine question by the way

 

[bladeplayer]

So if stats are meaningless at our level, then how do you know which club to use? You're stood on the tee of a 150yd Par 3. Are you really telling me that you're swing is so inconsistent that you would just guess at a club? Or would you use the experience of all your previous 150yd shots to assist your decision? Just because a stat isn't written down, doesn't mean you don't use it.
I use the stats I've recorded to make a "best guess" at the best way to improve. Some prefer not to record stats, but we all use them to some degree.

Not really sure how yardages are relevent as OP was stats re GIR Putts per round etc

But again you play the course in a strong wind today, the wind is behind you so u use one club to hit the 150 par 3
, tomorrow there is no wind so u use a different club
friday its the same wind as today so u use a different club again

What stat is correct ..


Be out for a while will check backm later , not ignoring any answers

 

[guest100718]

As in how many putts were

Putts under 5'/10'/15' v putts over 5' /10'/15'

putts downhill under 5'/10'/15'/ putts uphill over 5'/10'/15'

Putts on fast greens / putts on slow greens


Where do you stop to get an accurate stat .. genuine question by the way

you keep whatever stats you feel are relevant.