Stack & Tilt

BrianDamage

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Just thought I'd share my initial experience today using S&T.

After having familiarised myself with the technique over the last couple of days online I put it to the test today hitting a couple of hundred balls.

Well I have to say after the first 20 or so when I was trying to 'get it right' the results were fantastic. A lot of really pure strikes. Consistently hitting the ball 10-15 yards further than usual, with a lower trajectory. I found the long irons in particular were miles better than they've ever been.

I know all swing changes are supposed to feel akward but s&t feels awful. It just feels totally bizarre not shifting your weight back. I really had to think hard about what I was doing each time.

Think it's definitely worth trying for any player who is struggling with their ball striking.

Anyone else here tried s&t and did you have similar results?
 
Yup, It's taken me a long time to get the swing working, but in comparison with the more traditional swing, I now feel far more in control of the club.
Blocked or pulled shots have completely disappeared as they were often caused by poor weight transfer.
being tall (6'3") it's helped a lot.
 
Stack+Tilt equalls sore back in the future, you have been warned.
 
Stack+Tilt equalls sore back in the future, you have been warned.
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..and you draw that info from precisely WHAT experience?




It would be interesting to know just how many golfers have quit from 'conventional golf' citing a bad back amongst their ailments.... tens of 1000's I reckon.
 
I know all swing changes are supposed to feel akward but s&t feels awful. It just feels totally bizarre not shifting your weight back. I really had to think hard about what I was doing each time.
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You'll get used to it pretty quick, it's a lot better than all that moving about stuff :)
 
I think you'll have to wait for murphthemog to put in an appearance as he seesm to be one of the S&M, sorry meant S&T officiandos and has been getting some pretty decent results with it. He'll be able to give you a breakdown on how he's found it, problems etc.
 
S&T, the way forward. The more you know about it, the more you see in the pro game. Stick with it, it makes sense. Every good player exhibits elements of S&T.

Yep, JOUK uses it. So do I.

No, it doesn't hurt your back, that is a myth put about by people who know zip about it. Ditto for people who say no top pro does it.

If it works for you, (and it would work for any one if they just tried it), keep it up.

Also, see my review of 'The stack and tilt swing' in the review section.
 
I saw your review murph which is what inspired me to make a start on the S&T trail. I've just been so inconsistent with my ball striking that I thought it was worth a try.

I haven't bought 'the definitive guide' yet but I will do.

I was chuffed with the results today. Some of my irons were better than anything I'd ever hit before.

I didn't try it with the driver. Can't quite get my head round how it will work with the driver when rather than making connection on the downswing I want to be hitting on the upswing, sweeping it away?
 
I didn't try it with the driver. Can't quite get my head round how it will work with the driver when rather than making connection on the downswing I want to be hitting on the upswing, sweeping it away?
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The ball position is different, as it is more forward you don't come into it quite as steep, same as the conventional swing. Yes, you might hit it with 1° descending blow.. maybe. Remember, if you're doing it correctly then your swing plane won't be overly steep in the first place, especially not with a nice long driver shaft.

@ JustoneUK

I take it you use S&T yourself then?
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I am a stacker and tilter. Last year I dabbled for a few months on and off but now I've decided to stick with it for the forseeable future.

It really is the way to hit a decent, more consistant shot. Like any swing you will have your own demons... problems here and there, but nothing like you would have with a conventional swing.
 
I think S&T is potentially useful for anyone who can get the action right as it centres the player over the ball well and encourages an accurate strike. But it does need a certain amount of flexibility and core strength to make it work.
 
I think S&T is potentially useful for anyone who can get the action right as it centres the player over the ball well and encourages an accurate strike. But it does need a certain amount of flexibility and core strength to make it work.
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That sounds a little biased.

The conventional swing also needs "a certain amount of flexibility and core strength to make it work" doesn't it?



I'd actually say that I find S&T a lot less demanding on the body.

If you try to tilt your spine away from the target by 5°, whilst bending forward at the waist by 30° then rotate your hips 45°, your shoulders a further 45°, all the time getting your weight over your right side and LIFTING the club up (so it is behind you and parallel to the target), don't forget you don't want to be in that 30° forward position now... then lunge at the ball unwinding whilst trying to get onto that left foot..... and hit the ball straight in the process

....the conventional golf swing is inconsistant at best.

Time will prove that as more an more S&T'ers win on the tour and your local club comps.
 
Now that is the question.

There are very few S&T coaches at the moment, so it is hard to learn. For JUOK and me, we have been playing a long time, have an analyitical view on the golf swing, and can learn from the internet, and books. For actual lessons, from a pro, a bit more difficult at the moment.

Not sure where that gets you.

In 15 years time, S&T will be the dominant swing in the amateur game, this is just the beginning.
 
Yes.

But it is for every club in the bag, not just irons.

I have had to buy a new driver, as my old one just doesn't work with S&T.
 
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