SPOTY 2025

Lucifer MorningStar said:
No I wouldn’t. He still has to drive the car and beat what’s in front of him. You could argue the same for Rory and his team of coaches, trainers, caddy etc. he still had to. Swing the club like Lando has to drive the car.

Couldn’t care less who won ultimately as it’s a non entity of an award from a broadcaster that has no decent free to air sport so it’s very much an irrelevance these days.
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But the car makes a huge difference, much more than a golf club or a tennis racquet.

I know individual sports people have lots of people around them. That being said, if I caddy for McIlroy, he'll still be one of the best golfers in the world. Whereas if I designed Norris's car, every single person in this forum would beat him hands down in a Vauxhall Corsa
 
Swango1980 said:
But the car makes a huge difference, much more than a golf club or a tennis racquet.

I know individual sports people have lots of people around them. That being said, if I caddy for McIlroy, he'll still be one of the best golfers in the world. Whereas if I designed Norris's car, every single person in this forum would beat him hands down in a Vauxhall Corsa
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He still has to drive that car and beat one of the greatest drivers there has been in the modern era.

I couldn’t care less though like I said Rory won Yay 🙌. Swiftly moving on with things that I’m bothered about like watching paint dry 🤣
 
103 posts on an irrelevant programme that nobody is going to watch or care about broadcast by a company which has no interest in sport or any relevance to it.
Seems a bit odd.

……..104 now.
 
Lucifer MorningStar said:
He still has to drive that car and beat one of the greatest drivers there has been in the modern era.

I couldn’t care less though like I said Rory won Yay 🙌. Swiftly moving on with things that I’m bothered about like watching paint dry 🤣
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But, everyone has been saying the Red Bull car is shocking compared to McClaren. Which would imply if the cars were equal, Max would win hands down.

So, sort of implies the car is important, and the team behind that car

Bit different if it was Indycar I suppose, where the cars are equal.
 
D-S said:
103 posts on an irrelevant programme that nobody is going to watch or care about broadcast by a company which has no interest in sport or any relevance to it.
Seems a bit odd.

……..104 now.
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In fairness, I think there were more posts on a thread about how people don't care whether an airplane could take off on a treadmill :ROFLMAO:
 
Swango1980 said:
But, everyone has been saying the Red Bull car is shocking compared to McClaren. Which would imply if the cars were equal, Max would win hands down.

So, sort of implies the car is important, and the team behind that car

Bit different if it was Indycar I suppose, where the cars are equal.
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I really don’t care! Mr Blobby could win it for I care, the award is an irrelevance from a broadcaster that doesn’t broadcast any decent live sports for anyone to watch. Based on that alone I don’t believe any relevance in their trying to claim this to be a big thing anymore.

Doesn’t matter what defence or comeback I get I stand by my opinion so will leave it at that 👌
 
Lucifer MorningStar said:
I really don’t care! Mr Blobby could win it for I care, the award is an irrelevance from a broadcaster that doesn’t broadcast any decent live sports for anyone to watch. Based on that alone I don’t believe any relevance in their trying to claim this to be a big thing anymore.

Doesn’t matter what defence or comeback I get I stand by my opinion so will leave it at that 👌
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Apologies.

I only initially replied to your detailed post because I thought you were expressing a genuine opinion on sporting achievement, and how you felt that should only really apply to those who play an individual sport. I thought the sport of Formula 1 introduced a more cloudy difference between individual and team.

What I wasn't aware of was that you were simply giving us a lengthy explanation as to why you don't care about SPOTY. And that you were not overly serious in your opinion that an F1 driver would be valid contender based on sporting achievement (I personally wouldn't give the award to Mr Blobby, for example)

It would have probably just been easier to simply say the reward is irrelevant. I'd certainly largely agree, it has nowhere near the prestige it once had. It is nothing more than a token gesture these days
 
I disagree with all comments regarding the award not being what it was.

The award seems to be to be no different than it ever has been. Someone gets it for doing something notable in sport. And that's about it.

Red Rum should have won it in 1977 and Princess Anne should have been a joint winner with her horse - just like Jayne Torville and Chris Dean the only ever "team" winners.
And that last line sums up my opinion of the award's relevance.
I've never taken it very seriously. I think it is something of a mistake to do so.
 
The award will always be worthwhile and serious to the people that mattered

People can try and undermine it or dismiss it because the BBC host it and they don’t have as much sport etc etc but until the British Sportsmen and women stop seeing it as a huge honour to have their name on that trophy then it will continue to be relevant
 
Swango1980 said:
But, everyone has been saying the Red Bull car is shocking compared to McClaren. Which would imply if the cars were equal, Max would win hands down.

So, sort of implies the car is important, and the team behind that car

Bit different if it was Indycar I suppose, where the cars are equal.
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The Redbull was the best car post summer break. If either of the McLaren drivers received the same preferential treatment Max gets they would have won the drivers title with 4 or 5 races to spare.
 
Lucifer MorningStar said:
I really don’t care! Mr Blobby could win it for I care, the award is an irrelevance from a broadcaster that doesn’t broadcast any decent live sports for anyone to watch. Based on that alone I don’t believe any relevance in their trying to claim this to be a big thing anymore.

Doesn’t matter what defence or comeback I get I stand by my opinion so will leave it at that 👌
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You don’t care so much you are repeatedly posting on a thread about it 🤣
 
D-S said:
103 posts on an irrelevant programme that nobody is going to watch or care about broadcast by a company which has no interest in sport or any relevance to it.
Seems a bit odd.

……..104 now.
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Wait until the conclusion of Citys charges. Al bet there’s 115 reply’s 😂
 
Watched it coz Mrs H had it on, and I actually enjoyed it. The pieces were short enough not to bore but included enough to make it interesting, even if it was a sport I’m not fussed about.

I’ll give it 8/10 from me.
 
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